I don’t know that I could prove from scripture if insects are “alive” in the biblical classification of things or not. Since God told Noah to bring two of all living things into the ark “in whose nostrils was the breath of life” (Genesis 7:22) and insects don’t have nostrils, maybe they can be considered a “self-replicating, complex food source.” Possibly fish fit into the same category.
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Life is not defined like that. But it's Can't Hovind, so what can I say?
By the dubz, fetuses, at least early on, don't have nostrils.
Then we shouldn't have so many insects Kent. Right?
Unless you think there was a seperate insect Ark or they all just road the upper deck of Noahs, but then that's not in your Bible. Is it? Ah, but you're a fundamentalist and your lot ignore the "do not add or take away" commandments in scripture and follow the more common practice of "lying for Jesus"
According to Google, life is the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death. Insects and fish fit those conditions, despite what it says in the Big Book of Nonsense.
So, where did all the insects go during the Flood then, if they were not on the Ark?
Whales have blow-holes, not nostrils. Was the Flood water salt water or fresh water? Fresh water animals might die in salt water, and vice versa.
A shark is a fish. Is the great white a "self-replicating, complex food source"?
Oh, it's Kenty-pooh. Professional liar and prison inmate number 06452-017.
Fundie Beliefs #18: Noah and the Flood
The Flood killed everything except the water-dwelling animals, plants, fungi and bacteria - although the cacti must have had a close call with all that water. It’s not clear whether the water was salty or fresh, though some theorize that the salt wasn’t added to the oceans until after the Flood. The Bible is silent on the issue.
Eventually, the water went somewhere. Then the animals went back to their own places: the two llamas swam 2,500 miles across the Atlantic to South America, hacked their way across the Amazon jungles and climbed up into the newly-formed Andes, where either God or "microevolution" gave them a new form of hemoglobin to cope with the lack of air. The bar-headed geese also got new hemoglobin so they could migrate over the newly-formed Himalayas. The Gila monsters swam the Atlantic and settled in the US deserts, the penguins went to Antarctica and the polar bears headed to the frozen North. The two Australian giant earthworms tunneled under the Kavir desert, slithered across India, island-hopped down the Malay Peninsula and burrowed under the ocean bed to emerge in Australia. Noah’s wife went back to the kitchen where she belonged. Noah’s boat settled in Turkey, where it can still be seen by anyone with an imagination.
So what? Who cares or should care whether or not the Bible (or someone's interpertaion of some part of the Bible) says insects are alive? By objective, reasonable, logically based arguments, insects are alive. Case closed.
P.S. Hovind may be brain-dead. Perhaps the Bible has a passage about that.
I consider Hovind a "self-replicating, complex food source" as I am certain he is brain-dead.
@anothga, that is awesome!
Um, Kent, the passage in Leviticus 11 discussing whether or not insects and other creatures can be eaten starts: The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Say to the Israelites: Of all the animals that live on land, these are the ones you may eat: (Leviticus 11: 1-2). Another fundie who doesn't know his Bible.
If the Bible is the absolute truth and God dictated it, there should be no confusion as to what occurs within its pages. It's very clear that Noah brought two of every animal, including insects and fish, aboard the ark. Either the story is true or it's bullshit. Make your choice, Kent. Don't waffle on us now.
@freako104
Kent Hovind just failed zoology. And what is he a doctor of?
"Christian Education", if I remember correctly, whatever that may be. As Denizen said, his degree comes from a diploma mill and isn't worth the ink and paper that were wasted printing it.
It is so difficult to come to a conclusion when Bible God hasn't told us what to think. I mean are insects and fish alive? Who knows? I suppose we'll never know until Bible God tells us.
Or:-
Kent Hovind is senile and slowly becoming not alive, or so it seems.
@ John
Fundie Beliefs #18: Noah and the Flood
Awesome! I want to see the other 17, and more if you've got them.
"Eventually, the water went somewhere."
The answer I like best is Mars. Must be where all flood water goes. NASA has got nothing on flood water.
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@ Hasan Prishtina
So no fish then. OK.
@ Adrian
"Christian Education"
Like Gospel Truth,
Jumbo Shrimp,
Military Intelligence,
etc.
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Not every animal has its nostrils in the same place, Kent.
Of course, your "biblical classification of things" is pure nonsense.
Possibly fish fit into the same category.
Yup, fish needed a place on the arc. Otherwise they would have drowned.
So...where were all the fish, bacteria, polyps, cephalopods and arthropods hiding during the flood that would have killed them as surely as it would have wiped out the mammals and reptiles?
A shoebox, trailing the ark? Or are you just gonna default to "goddidit"?
Annnnnnnnnnnd Kent Hovind has sank to the level of the internet creationist, not even bothering to come with something that makes sense to self-replicating complex food sources like ordinary creation scientists. No wonder why even the nuts at Pensacola Christian College turned him in--this guy is batshit insane!
So, now that life is defined as breath in nostrils, I hope to see Kent defend pro-choice. No? What, he's just grasping at straws to defend an idiotic position and not considering his argument to its logical conclusion? Okay then.
Or you could admit that your holy book has errors in it, which it clearly does.
I know which one I'd choose.
All I'm getting in my nostrils is the strong whiff of absolute, weapons-grade bullshit. But if it is any consolation, jail boy, you can prove from scripture that insects have four legs.
The fact that you would be completely wrong about that as well is just too bad, eh?
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