For all the true Christians reading this article, here is something you can do to help our country:
We all know that gays and their supporters are being controlled by Satan. God can overcome Satan. Just as Jesus was able to save us all by His sacrifice of death on the cross, we can accomplish the same thing on a smaller scale. Take every single hardship, suffering, annoyance (especially all of the name-calling by the liberals) that you have to endure and offer it up as a sacrifice to God to open the eyes and hearts of the atheists and indoctrinated. You have to go through it anyway. Why not get more bang for your buck?
Satan especially hates this tactic, because it's like you're taking his ammunition and turning it back on him. Once he realizes what you're doing, how long do you think he'll keep up his attacks? Satan is a lot of things, but he's not stupid.
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I can't really fault anyone for hating tactics like this because in civilized debates, both sides need to maintain a position that, you know, makes sense.
What does a deity do with all this hardship/suffering/annoyance, store it somewhere? Do you get bonus points on a magical score card? Yah, I do about know where that logic is coming from, but it does not cease to amaze me.
I summary....
"do nothing"
We all know that Satan does not exist.
You get a point for calling non-atheist people "indoctrinated".
Do you also try to open the eyes and hearts of people working on the Sabbath, wearing clothes of mixed fabrics, or cutting their hair or beard?
"Satan especially hates this tactic, because it's like you're taking his ammunition and turning it back on him. "
If this is the case, isn't the best plan of attack to bang someone of the same sex in the name of Jesus ?
Yeah, that will definitely turn the tide of gay rights in this country and force those gays back into the closet.
If God is so powerful, can overcome Satan, and doesn't like homosexuality, then why do you need to offer up suffering as a sacrifice to God when he could just end homosexuality in an instant? Or is he just twisted that way? And seeing as how people have been praying against the gays for decades, and they have been slowly but surely gaining the right to get married, apparently God is OK with gay people or doesn't care.
"Just as Jesus was able to save us all by His sacrifice of death on the cross,"
They spit this or words with the same implication out regularly. Can any Christians explain where this idea comes from? Are they saying all went to Hell before Christ died? After all, how could they be believers before if God wasn't enough?
400 years before Christ or 400 after, what changed? Books of scripture or outside scripture that refer to the time of Christ in the past state no time period of great peace occuring afterwords. by 1000 ad or 1500 ad with the church firmly established there are no utopias or shining light nations.
So basically, Marie is telling fellow Christians to put up with what they don't like and just pray it will change.
I think I can live with that attitude.
Aside from the Satan/Gheys/Atheist bits,
This is basically just rewording "Turn the Other Cheek."
Which is fine.
Certainly not frothing at the mouth like most fundies.
...or as it's only serving Satan's purpose, it's kinda blowing up in your face, a la McCarthy extending his paranoia into the US Army the way he did.
PROTIP: Christainity's 'Satan' = WH40K's Tzeentch:
'What is Chaos? Suffering, you might say. Oppression. Deceit. But could not all these things be said of your Imperium? You hunt down the talented and the strong-willed. You break them or sacrifice them. You lie to your citizens and wage war on those who dare speak out. The inquisitors you call masters assume guilt and execute millions on a whim. And why? Why do you do this? Because you know Chaos is there but you do not know how to fight it, so you crush your own citizens for fear that they might aid the Enemy. The Imperium suffers because of Chaos. No matter how hard you fight, that will never change. Chaos exists in a state of permanent victory over you - you dance to our tune, mortal one, you butcher and torture and repress one another because the gods of the warp require you to. The Imperium is founded on Chaos. My lord Tzeentch won your war a long, long time ago. '
After all, according to your Old Testament, your 'God of unconditional Love' = Khorne. Prove me wrong.
"Take every single hardship, suffering, annoyance that you have to endure and offer it up as a sacrifice to God"
Dear God I have the squits. No doubt caused by Satan and his curry demons. Please use my suffering to open up the eyes and hearts of atheists so that they may see the light.
"Satan is a lot of things, but he's not stupid."
You, on the other hand, are.
Now if Marie L. will open her bible, we can put this thing to bed.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
You should know it's not going to work, because it hasn't in the past no matter how much Christians have already done this... and it's been for ages now. Just sayin.
But on the other hand, if we could get fundies to follow your advice of praying and turning the other cheek we might see some significant progress for human rights.
"see the devil kiss the hand of god
see the devil crying tears of flame
see the devil bite the hand of christ
and know the devil is the work of god
and all the devils do the work of god
in this season of the world's demise
upon the wings of the fallen dream
I hear the sound of a bleeding mind
the angels smile the smile of the shame
they bring the tortures that infest the earth
see the warlords of a heavenly rank
and know that war is the will of god
bringer of death
Bringer of Death
BRINGER OF DEATH!" - Glen Danzig
Your Satan is just a tool of your evil, bloodthirsty, insane toddler-god. Even teh geys are the work of god.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read, and I've read James Patterson books
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU OFFER HARDSHIP AS A SACRIFICE
a sacrifice, BY VERY FUCKING DEFINITION is something you treasure and give up willingly!
If you offer your hardships up as sacrifice, it's not a sacrifice! You're just dumping your shit somewhere! How the fuck does it glorify god to give him something YOU NEVER WANTED IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE
god damn, this is stupid even for a godwhore
If god can control the devil he sure is pretty bad at it. Why not get rid of him already? Then no one can be controlled by bad old Satan.
How is "offering up" something you don't want a sacrifice? Don't think that's anywhere near the same as being literally crucified. And what is god going to do with these feelings of butt-hurt? Transform it into magic gay-hatin' sand that he will sprinkle on the heads of the tolerant to make them utter scumbags like this loser? Why can't god "open the eyes and hearts" of the heathens on his own? I mean, he's fuckin' god, for god's sake.
Yeah, pretty sneaky, sis. I'm sure that by using this trick soon nobody will be atheist or tolerate those who are different from them and the world will be a better place. It'd be so much harder to evaluate your beliefs and be a better person so you wouldn't have to suffer when you get called on your bigotry. Because doing something is harder than doing nothing.
@ #1658527 : Not really, since they're the antagonists in the first place. The christofascists get offended and blather on about how they're "sick and tired" of being called bigots and haters when they spew the most hurtful, offensive crap. They want nothing but butt-pats. I don't think you can punch someone in the face and then when you're hit back claim to be the better person for "turning the other cheek."
"Satan is a lot of things, but he's not stupid."
Yet you think he's gonna be deterred by a bunch of nutty ceiling mumblers, apparently,
You do know that your intellect was specially created for you by Bible God so as make you feel superior to chickens and bacteria, don't you? I'm sure He won't mind you engaging it now and again.
God can overcome Satan
Hasn't done so yet.
"especially all the name-calling by the liberals"
Okay, I'm curious. Name one derogatory name that a liberal has ever called you.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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