[On the comic book character Archie being killed by taking a bullet meant for his gay friend.]
Even the comics are imitating life. Introduce the gay lifestyle into the "Riverdale" community, and death and violence soon follows. It's actually pretty poignant if you think about it.
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The entire point that I'm getting from the issue is that one, anti-gay violence is very real in Riverdale (A city which probably hasn't changed much since 1959, with the exception of black people not being killed), and that Archie would probably do anything for a close friend. And I'd have to agree with that point.
You know, if I didn't know this was FSTDT and that this was Rapture Ready, I thought they'd be making a point about discrimination.
Introduce the gay lifestyle into the "Riverdale" community, and death and violence soon follows.
Because those fine, upstanding Christians just can't help themselves when they gun down gay people in cold blood.
It's actually pretty poignant if you think about it.
Yes, I agree. Archie is a much better Christian than you are.
>>Moving Out of Stereo
Hasn't changed much since 1959? LOL It hasn't changed much since 1941, and even then it was written and drawn by people stuck forever in 1920. The creators probably thought the world of 1959 was ultra liberalism run amok. I've never been too clear on who Archie is supposed to appeal to. It strikes me as something my grandma would think was for people older than her, and she's 86.
There was an Archie-Punisher crossover in the 90s though, because, the entire world is either on hard drugs, or desperately needs to be.
Introduce the gay lifestyle into the "Riverdale" community, and death and violence soon follows.
... at the hand of whack-job homophobic murderers. Let's see: make people stop being gay, or stop people from committing murder. Hmmm, tough choice for Scott and the lunatic-fringe RR crowd. They apparently only read the part of the Bible that says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind", and missed the part that says "thou shalt not kill".
John,
The Bible never once says "do not kill". It says "do not murder", murder being defined as "wrongful" killing. The Bible has a very interesting definition of "rightful" killing.
On an unrelated note, what exactly is "the gay lifestyle"?* For that matter, what is the "straight lifestyle"? As a heterosexual, I need to know the second one.
*Yes, I know it's something fundies made up as part of a scare tactic.
Yes. Because, as we all know, gay people are entirely defined by being gay. Personality traits only exist in heterosexual people, and the only reason someone would take a bullet for a gay person is because that person is gay. The fact that Kevin Keller's a senator and that the assassination attempt could have been for that just doesn't cross your mind.
@Nemo:
Actually, it depends on which version of the Bible you're reading.
And Leviticus 24:17 says the same thing in every edition: "Anyone who takes the life of a human being is to be put to death."
So yes, the Bible does rather explicitly say not to kill. But it also contradicts itself dozens of times on a variety of issues. Consistency isn't really the book's strong point.
(On a black family in the South being lynched by the KKK.)
Introduce the negro lifestyle into the white community, and death and violence soon follows. It's actually pretty poignant if you think about it.
What's disturbing is that most people at RR wouldn't see anything wrong with this version of DARVO, either.
Loved Archie comics as a kid (1960s-70s). Awesome storylines involving everything including the draft. This makes me want break out some of my collection.
By the way; scott, you are a dumb fuck.
An incident in a comic book can surely mean only one thing! Can't it?
The only life that comics should imitate is life as it was in the 50's.
Or:-
Up! Up and away!!
Or:-
Is it a bird! Is it a plane? No it's a flabby meathead dropping ignorance bombs!
"Introduce the gay lifestyle into the "Riverdale" community, and death and violence soon follows."
It's the fundie who introduced the death and violence, dumass.
Even the comics are imitating life.
Because there was never any violence at all before a gay person appeared... certainly not in Archie...
Not going to mention the very famous "Archie beats off 3 guys" comic cover... ;)
Not only is Archie still being published, the Afterlife with Archie and the storyline that culminated in his death are actually genuinely high-quality works.
And hell, even ultra-christian Archie writer and artist Al Hartley would have seen nothing wrong with Archie giving up his life to save a friend, even a "sinful" one.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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