(referring to the article on Wikipedia about the geocentric model)
I found this article on Wikipedia and noticed it had misinformation in regards to the Bible, and tried to edit it, but the "free-thinkers" on Wikipedia wouldn't allow a pro-Bible viewpoint, so here it is on my website with minor changes that permit the Bible to speak. I won't say I'm a strong advocate of Geocentrism, but I am open to the idea. I also don't see any issue with the Heliocentric model either. The Bible is compatible with either position. Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct, and some believe both positions are equally valid with arguments to support either theory. Although Heliocentrism is a generally accepted theory by a majority for our universe, it is not proven.
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Science has long since agreed on the heliocentric model.
The only way Geocentrism can work with observation is if the earth is fixed and the entire universe moves around it. Which ammounts to the same as teh heliocentric model!
some believe both positions are equally valid
Those would be called 'idiots'. Geocentrism is insanity. Heliocentrism is less wrong when it comes to the structure of the solar system. As a model of the universe however, it would fail.
Although Heliocentrism is a generally accepted theory by a majority for our universe
No, it isn't. The solar system != the universe. Actual models of the universe don't postulate a centre anymore, because the universe is likely infinite.
Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct, and some believe both positions are equally valid with arguments to support either theory. Although Heliocentrism is a generally accepted theory by a majority for our universe, it is not proven. image
@anothga
The funniest thing is that Heliocentrism is not even a matter of proof (the distance, the mass and the dimentions of the Sun are). It's just a matter of convenient choice of a reference frame. And it has been so for at least three hundred years. How fundies can't get it through their skulls is beyond me.
"I won't say I'm a strong advocate of Geocentrism, but I am open to the idea. I also don't see any issue with the Heliocentric model either. The Bible is compatible with either position."
Which shows how wrong the bible is.
"Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct,"
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Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct
Uhhh, no.
Jesus Christ, didn't we settle this hundreds of years ago? It's bad enough that they're fighting evolutionary theory, but these idiots fighting against long-established scientific principles like the earth not being the center of the universe make religious nutjobs look even crazier than they are. What's next, going back to only having four elements of earth, wind, fire, and water? I'll start trying to turn lead into gold.
"the "free-thinkers" on Wikipedia wouldn't allow a pro-Bible viewpoint"
Maybe that's because what you're suggesting is the equivalent of saying the mainstream scientific view thinks the earth is flat.
"Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct"
Sorry, no, it isnt; not for hundreds of years. If, as you say, "It's not proven", how then has NASA been successfully navigating probes and rovers within the solar system? They have been able to navigate the Cassini probe through the gap in Saturn's rings. The mobile science lab Curiosity is currently doing all kinds of cool stuff on Mars. I was watching Curiosity's landing as it happened-they had planetary positions and waypoint information calculated to sub-second precision, and all events occurred exactly on schedule. If science has the incorrect model of the solar system, how do you propose all of these have been navigated successfully?
It's strange that these guys don't confine themselves to the medical procedures mentioned in the Bible.
It's nice to see that in some areas, at least, Wikipedia keeps out the propaganda and trash.
So true! We'll never know for certain until we land on the sun.
And I know all you science wise guys will say, what about all the fire on the sun? Easy. We'll land at night.
++"The Bible is compatible with either position."
You cannot make a specific claim and yet be compatible with a wildly opposed claim. That's not a thing. That's like saying "I'm allergic to peanuts but I can eat a peanut butter sandwich without issue".
++"Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct"
No. It's not.
++"Although Heliocentrism is a generally accepted theory by a majority for our universe, it is not proven."
Yes. It is.
For what its worth, many of the attempted Creationist patches to the starlight problem are essentially involve some kind of geocentricism. "Dr." Carl Baugh, for instance, describes the earth as being in the center of a gravity well which distorts the speed of light.
If you want people to accept your edits on Wikipedia, not accidentally deleting half the page while shoehorning your Biblical shit in is a good way to start.
EDIT: why is this site turning every url I try to post into a redirect to the very quote I'm on
Sorry, it's an anti-reality misinformation.
All the astronauts and cosmonauts kinda disprove your lack of prof of a Heliocentric model.
"Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct, and some believe both positions are equally valid with arguments to support either theory"
He's probably butchering relativity to get here. You have a choice of reference frame for calculations, and often it's easier to use one with Earth at the center (though this is a non-inertial frame, it usually ends up not mattering). Of course, the problem is that relativity also posits that there is no privileged reference frame in the Universe, while modern Geocentrists claim that there is, and that it's the frame where Earth is at the center.
I won't say I'm a strong advocate of Geocentrism, but I am open to the idea.
I hope it's not too windy up on that fence.
The real question here is, while humans tend to associate the center of something with importance, does the bible God too? Why is the center so important?
'Wikipedia wouldn't allow a pro-Bible viewpoint'
Yeah, you're not allowed a pro-anything viewpoint on a site explicitly stated to be trying to remain neutral, your royal twatage.
“The Bible is compatible with either position.”
No, it fucking well is not. The Bible’s cosmology is that the sun flies over the Earth, UNDER the solid sky. It even has a little doghouse it stays in at night, when it’s under the Flat Earth. Then it rushes to the horizon to start the day.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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