On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer made the case that the government can never endorse any position that is contrary to the will of God because government was established by God specifically for the purpose of carrying out his will, which is why gay marriage can never be legal. As Fischer explained, the entire idea of civil government came from God and therefore all earthly political and legal authority stems from God. As such, the purpose of civil government is to carry out the will of God, meaning that government can never remain neutral on moral issues. "God has called government to take sides in the culture war," Fischer said, "and God is instructing civil government to take the side of that which is right and good. That means government and those who hold government power have a divine responsibility to know the difference between good and evil so that they can reward the former and punish the latter." Thus, when government bans gay marriage, "it is doing a good thing," Fischer said. "It is doing a divinely ordained thing. It's doing its job. It's fulfilling its role as a minister of God"
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Dude, we abandoned the idea of divine rule when Elightenment arrived.
I wonder if God instructed Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot too.
Sorry Brian, but the notion of governments pre-date your skyfairy easily. Try the Athenian democracy of 500 BCE and the Roman Republic beginning around the same time, both 500 years before your alleged saviour's birth.
Despite what you seem to think the ancient world was not all savage barbarians until Gobs and Christianity brought civilisation, civilisation was already comfortably established.
But Bryan, many states and countries have made gay marriage legal. By your argument, it has only been done with God's approval. If the US Federal government makes it legal, can we look forward to your acknowledgement that it's God's will as well?
US Constitution, Danbury Baptists letter, Treaty of Tri -
Oh, why the fuck do I bother?
Gay marriage IS legal in several states, silly.
Moral is not an exclusive Christian virtue, stupid. All Christians are not moral, and all moral people are not Christian.
Many people think it is "right and good" to have equal rights for all people, including homosexuals.
According to the Bible:
Good - killing all the Amalekites; men, women, infants, sucklings, ox, sheep, camels, and asses.
Evil - wearing clothes of mixed fibers.
The government is NOT banning gay marriage, silly, it's refusing to uphold the ban.
++"As Fischer explained, the entire idea of civil government came from God"
Did it? Funny, then, that god was pissed off when the Israelites wanted a king... like all the other nations already had .
Nice try, dumbass, but not nearly nice enough.
government can never endorse any position that is contrary to the will of God because government was established by God specifically for the purpose of carrying out his will
So everything Stalin did, including, the mass closure of churches and the persecution of evangelical Christians, must be the will of God.
the government can never endorse any position that is contrary to the will of God
If it's contrary to the will of God, why doesn't God just come down here and stop it? Conversely, if God doesn't stop it, how can it be contrary to His will?
God has called government to take sides in the culture war
God is instructing civil government to take the side of that which is right and good
It's amazing how much Bryan seems to know about what God wants. Is he on God's Twitter feed?
Kitty Kaboom, I've actually heard the fundie response to the Treaty of Tripoli, or rather the "response". Basically, since it was made with a Muslim country it doesn't actually mean what it says. Because...... oh, who am I kidding? The dominionists tend to overlap with creationists! You can't reason with these guys.
I too believe in the divine right of tax collectors, building inspectors, and the Division of Motor Vehicles. Truly, no sparrow shall fall, and no questionable hot dog be sold!
Join me in praising the Lord of All Genitals!
Oh Lord, maker of all things without using so much as a screwdriver or straight edge, may you ever be our sock puppet as we usurp your alleged legitimacy and put words in your imaginary mouth. In Redneck Jesus' name, Amen!
Bryan Fischer made the case that the government can never endorse any position that is contrary to the will of God because government was established by God specifically for the purpose of carrying out his will
Good luck arguing that in court. Why didn't you get on the anti-gay marriage legal team and argue this in front of federal judges? You could have totally rolled back any & all legalized gay marriage!
So Bryan Fischer continues to spout his theocratic crap. It is amazing to me that Bryan Fischer so hates America. Of course he spouts patriotic cliché expressions but he deeply and fanatically hates and despises America and its core values. Those core values are the values of the enlightenment. Which include pluralism, religious freedom etc. All of which Bryan Fischer hates and despises. Bryan Fischer wants and desires passionately the establishment of the theocratic, "biblical" rule of the saints - in other words a theocracy. Since such a state would be in direct contradiction to basic and fundamental American values and include such things he despises as religious freedom, secularism etc. It is clear Bryan Fischer and other Christian Dominationists deeply and fanatically hate America and support a revolution to completely overturn the American Revolution and establish the theocratic rule of the Saints.
So Mr. Fischer just why do you hate America so much?
Confused?
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