Jason Lisle #fundie

Jason Lisle #fundie jasonlisle.com

governmental authorities should stop excessively taxing their citizens to fund programs that God has not authorized. It is a sign of apostasy when a government takes more in taxes than God has us tithe (e.g. 10%)

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old comment by ChrisInManc

It does irk me when people do a copy-pasta job from FtB into here... It's lazy but, I admit, most of the time on point. In this case however, the context, and most importantly the hypocrisy, has been lost. Jason Lisle is attempting to make the point that not only should all taxes arbitrarily be capped at 10%, but that said taxes should ONLY be spent on biblically approved things. These things, suprise suprise, are the right-wingers favourite things, namely, the military, police and armed forces in general. However, he then goes on to state things such as 'wealth redistribution' (or 'welfare' to us normal people) is absolutely unbiblical, despite the bible making repeated statements about the importance of helping the poor...

It wouldn't be 'the darndest things' without the internal inconsistencies, people!!!

old comment by SpukiKitty

MY HYPOTHETICAL TALK WITH OL' LISLE-BOY.....

ME: "So, Jason; What are these programs that your demiurgic take on Elohim loathes?"

LISLE: "Let's see...Welfare, Food Stamps, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid...."

ME: "Uh, you know who this Jesus guy is, right?"

LISLE: "Uhhhh......yyyyyeeeaahhh?...."

ME: "Good. Get out your Bible, I have some scripture verses for you to look up. Write them down first, look them up, then read them to me outloud"

LISLE: *Grabs Bible & writing pad*

ME: "Okay! Let's begin! DEUTERONOMY 15:7-11...MATTHEW Chapters 5-7...MATTHEW 25:31-46...LUKE 6:17-49. Now those are just a few passages."

LISLE: *Looks up & reads*

ME: "OKAY! A Hebrew Testament quote and a couple of Jesus quotes. Now explain to me how the Big Guy wouldn't want a social safety net?"

LISLE: *Makes up a bunch of jib jab involving a non-existent gate, being forced, or whatever mental & verbal gymnastics*

ME: "Lisle. Let's cut to the chase. You love warfare and watching other people fight them & blow each other up. You're an insecure male who believes in machismo & therefore are a weakling. You don't like helping out 'Them dangburned brown people' (despite the fact that most people on those programs are white). You want money so you can enjoy your hookers & blow & finally, You worship Antichrist & The Whore of Babylon.....because your Jesus is obviously not MY Jesus or the Bible's Jesus."

(I, SpukiKitty, have now adopted 'Christo-Paganism' as my personal path. The Bible must be reclaimed by the sane and I like Yeshua/'Jesus' a lot. I call my personal path 'NazarShakta NeoPaganism.')

old comment by Anon-e-moose

The Large Hadron Collider - for finding the Higgs-Boson & proving the Big Bang is fact - was privately funded. And isn't even in the US.

Question: Is your 'belief' a religion like the Church of $cientology, or are you one of those who claim that yours "isn't a religion, but a 'personal relationship with Jesus'"? Because depending on your answer, either the IRS would like a word with you & your fundie ilk concerning nearly $17 quadrillion owed by Christianity in the US since 1776, or you can kiss goodbye to your Police, Armed Forces & FBI/CIA/NSA.

...but still, the Mexicans are Christian at least, thus you would have a state religion, as you've always wanted! [/hyper-paradox] >:D

@Anon

"Why would God need tithe anyway?"

What does God need with money? [/James T. Kirk]

Remember, o fundies: all it takes is for the IRS to move in on you & your ilk, should you start having ideas above your stations. Remember: As per the 1st Amendment, the government can't tell you who/how to worship, equally you fundies don't have the fucking right to tell the government what to do.

So much as thinking of having an 'opinion' which - if made public - & thus affects others in any way, is political. You're already on thin fiscal-political ice, so I'd stop jumping up & down, if I were you.

...oh wait. Keep jumping! >:D

old comment by David B.

"governmental authorities should stop excessively taxing their citizens to fund programs that God has not authorized"

Romans 13:1, "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Sure looks like they were authorized to me.

Romans 13:4-5, "For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience."

Definitely authorized. Look, it calls them "God's servents", says they get to punish people who break the law, and that good Christians should just "submit".

Romans 13:6-7, "This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

Yup, it's there in black and white, God says you have to pay whatever taxes those God has put in authority decide to institute.

old comment by John

governmental authorities should stop excessively taxing their citizens to fund programs that God has not authorized

So the government should only spend money on stuff the Bible orders, like feeding the poor (Matt. 9:21, Luke 14:13, et. al.) and giving them medical care (Matt. 4:24, Luke 5:15 et. al.), and stop spending money on stuff like border patrols and useless wars.

BTW, the 10% tithe was spent on themselves: "Make an offering of ten percent, a tithe, of all the produce which grows in your fields year after year. Bring this into the Presence of God, your God, at the place he designates for worship and there eat the tithe from your grain, wine, and oil and the firstborn from your herds and flocks." (Deut. 14:22-23) In other words, make a 10% tithe and have yourself a party with it.

Jason Lisle #fundie jasonlisle.com

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