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[re: author "disproving" plate tectonics]

not only does he say the earth is growing he provides excellent resources for evidence amongst planets and moons that are growing also, for myself, I would call it irrefutable evidence, he has clearly demonstrated that the subduction theory does not happen, this in itself must give rise to a completely different scenario for tectonic plate movement and he provides a no nonsense logical explanation that is so simple its ridiculous.

Christopher John, Evolution Fairytale Forums 19 Comments [4/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Talisman

\"earth is growing he provides excellent resources for evidence amongst planets and moons that are growing also\"

The Earth is not alive. The other planets and moons are not alive. Where then is the enormous amount of material coming from that would make them 'grow'?

These people seeem to purposly seek out crack pot ideas to latch onto just so that they don't have to go along with what science says about something.

EDIT: By the way, yes, I'm aware that Earth as well as other planets are bombarded with various cosmic dust and debris that adds to it's mass, but I don't think that's the kind of 'growing' this guy is talking about.

4/8/2006 2:22:16 PM

Julian

CJ - just because you are incapable of refuting it, does not give you the right to call it irrefutable evidence.




Let me guess, Earth is growing because of all the souls piling up in hell! Those other moons must be the different layers of hell where they put different categories of sinners, from those who died without ever hearing the word of Christ, to those that blasphemed against the Holy goat.
Fundy101.

4/8/2006 3:32:15 PM

Aesmael

The giant planets are contracting. The gravitational energy released by this actually causes Jupiter and Saturn to radiate more energy than they receive from the sun (Jupiter glows in the infrared). Many scientists also suspect that Mercury is contracting, hopefully MESSENGER will provide conclusive evidence.

As for the Earth growing? No. Just no.

Now, Christopher John. Once more, with facts please.

If you want a quick primer on the giant planets check here: http://tinyurl.com/lwc56

I only scanned it briefly but the facts seem in order.

And for a little on Mercury: http://tinyurl.com/px8gv

4/8/2006 4:41:21 PM

Hadanelith

Once more, in pre-parsed English, please. While the Earth maybe be growing very slightly from interstellar impacts, the actual radius, diamter, circumerence, surface area, and volume are not, repeat, NOT increasing. Idiot.

4/8/2006 5:18:45 PM

The Last Conformist

It's well worth looking at the animations on Neal Adams's site linked to in Christopher John's post. It's some of the most amusing pseudoscience I've seen on the 'Net.

I'm using the term \"pseudoscience\" in a loose sense, BTW. It falls short of the scholarliness of a von Däniken or a Velikovsky.

4/8/2006 6:27:26 PM

Papabear

What is it exactly that proves subduction does not happen?

4/8/2006 6:38:19 PM

The Last Conformist

According to Adam's, it's obvious impossibility.

4/8/2006 8:55:53 PM

Maronan

<<<...explanation that is so simple its ridiculous.>>>

This pretty much sums it up. Simple explainations like \"Goddidit\" and \"It's impossible for us to understand\" and \"it was magic\" are rarely the answers; they are literally so simple that they're ridiculous.

4/8/2006 11:16:07 PM

Steve

Oh, brother.

4/8/2006 11:38:11 PM

NonHomogenized

HAHAHAHAHA! Oh, jeez, I went to the link from Christopher John's post. AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Oh, that's priceless. Ho ho ha ha ha ha ha.

*wipes away tears*

Oh, fuck. Someone actually believes that, don't they?

4/9/2006 3:49:29 AM

AWP

This a whole new level of stupid or wishfull non-thinking.

4/9/2006 9:27:11 AM

David D.G.

Maronan, I agree: \"so simple its ridiculous\" is all that needs to be said. Pity that Christopher John didn't heed his own evaluation.

By the way, even just ignoring all the \"growing worlds\" nonsense, since seafloor spreading and subduction zones have actually been observed in action, it's a little late to \"disprove\" plate tectonics. It is a fact, like gravity, evolution, and starlight billions of years old.


~David D.G.

4/9/2006 10:41:17 PM

Julian

DDG - is that in those deep sea vents where bacteria uses Hydrogen Sulphide as an energy source and there's entire ecosystems based around them?

4/11/2006 4:54:38 AM

David D.G.

Julian #28672

<< DDG - is that in those deep sea vents where bacteria uses Hydrogen Sulphide as an energy source and there's entire ecosystems based around them? >>

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Yes, in some of them anyway! Nature is just endlessly fascinating, isn't it? It seems there's always some bizarre new things to learn about that we never suspected.


~David D.G.

4/11/2006 2:40:24 PM

King Spirula

\"the subduction theory does not happen\"

Tell that to the families of the 250,000 who died from the 2004 tsunami, as the quake originated from a subduction fault.

4/14/2006 8:42:57 PM

Nirjuana


1/27/2008 5:21:18 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Everest could care less.

4/5/2012 2:05:14 AM

Moondog


4/5/2012 6:23:25 AM

Swede

I know very little about geology, or whatever field deals with tectonic plates, but aren't the plates comming up in the middle of the Atlantic and going down in the middle of the Pacific? Very simplistically speaking, that is. The same amount of crust is visible all the time, no growth is happening.

4/5/2012 6:34:46 AM
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