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If one accepts that there is a God, then one is already moving away from what is scientific. In that case, is contradiction really that much of a problem? One must use a critical mind when looking through the Bible, even if one is a believer, but if one has already decided that there is a God, then aren't the contradictions relatively trivial? Are the details *that* important?

calliarcale, Space.com Uplink 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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BonzaiRob

God is in the detail XD

3/22/2007 9:01:48 PM

BurntBush

Only if you try and bullshit somebody else about it.

3/22/2007 9:27:34 PM

Salvador

If one accepts that there is a God, then one is already moving away from what is scientific.

And that is good how?

5/23/2007 6:53:53 PM

Sideshow Bob

Technically he's correct. A metaphysical being DOES transcend science. Also, critical thought is a resource that is all too often underused in Bible study (A key reason for this site's existence, in fact). However, handwaving the apparent contradictions rather than using a critical mind to riddle them out is not a good idea.

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5/23/2007 7:01:28 PM

JasoNF

Any contradiction tells us the bible was made by fallable man, not a perfect God, and should be treated as such rather than revered.

5/23/2007 7:56:51 PM

anothga

Yes. Details ARE *that* important.

12/31/2012 3:45:49 PM

xyz

God has nothing to do with science.

Would you invest money in an overunity device, on the off chance that scientists might be wrong about them not being possible?

12/31/2012 6:36:36 PM

Dr.Shrinker

"If one accepts that there is a God, then one is already moving away from what is scientific. "

- With you so far.


"In that case, is contradiction really that much of a problem?"

- If you are trying to define objective reality then, yes, contradiction is a big problem.


"One must use a critical mind when looking through the Bible, even if one is a believer,"

- If one did that, one would no longer be a believer.


"...but if one has already decided that there is a God, then aren't the contradictions relatively trivial?"

- If you go by the assumption that the bible is perfect then, no, the contradictions it contains are in fact a very serious problem.


"Are the details *that* important?"

- Over the centuries a lot of people have been killed over the details of Christianity. Your lot seems to think those details are very important

1/8/2013 8:30:06 PM

Quantum Mechanic

There isn't.

Idiots on the other hand ...

10/24/2013 1:46:23 AM



"If one accepts that there is a God, "

And of one doesn't, then there are no problems, right?

10/24/2013 2:13:40 AM

Swede

The contradictions and details are important if you try to force others to do things based on the Bible.
As long as you use it as a guide only for yourself, it's no-one else's business.

The contradictions show that no perfect omnipotent being wrote it, that it was definitely written by fallible human beings over a long period of time.

10/24/2013 2:37:23 AM

Canadiest

The problem with this is that your proof of God always falls back to the Bible which is proven to be contradictive (and just wrong about several things)unto itself.

So, unless you accept it as a book of parables or believe in some undefined God without a book as its basis, you do indeed have to face up to its errors and realize the odds are great that the whole mess is trivial.

And therein never use it as a basis for governing, law or social morality or commit yourself to any church.

I don't see the fundie here as they usually deny the contradictions even exist.


10/26/2013 3:36:38 AM



"If one accepts that there is a God, then one is already moving away from what is scientific"

Good, now tell this to all the fundie-idiots that are trying to force him into the public school science classes.

10/26/2013 8:22:55 PM
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