Jimmy is dead wrong on that statement. Jesus/God made us in His image and likeness. We were created to know, love and serve Him so we can spend eternity in Heaven with Him. In the days of Moses, the penalty for homosexuality was death by stoning. He told His Israelites through Moses that a man must not lie with another man as he does with a woman. That is detestable. God said homosexuality is a sin. So why would Jesus approve of sinful behavior? He wouldn't and He doesn't!
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He is essentially correct. The law given to the Jews proscribes death penalty for homosexuality. However, the Bible must be read in context. Jesus' sacrifice changed some of the rules (but not others). Faggotry is addressed in Romans 1, where it is placed at the same level as other manners of satanism: lying, stealing, debating, disobedience to parents. It also teaches us that all of these are worthy of death, but does not direct us to kill such heathens.
Therefore other modalities of punishements are appropriate, but not the death penalty.
Jerry,
@Jelly Jerry
Question: Do you think the KJV is the only version to be trusted, is utterly flawless in every conceivable way, and is the absolute word of your God, as authorised by a past
Think extremely carefully before answering, Jer.
...oh, and all Jews - who don't acknowledge your Jesus as their 'Messiah - are going to Heaven, via the John 14:6 Jesus-bypassing (and thus Christianity-destroying) Romans 11:26-32. All due to their 'Disobedience'.
Y'know what is 'Disobedience' too, Jelly Jerry? Atheism & Homosexuality. Thus, via Rom. 11:30-32, we're bypassing your J-boy and going to Heaven too. Prove us wrong. Now.
Rom. 11:30-32 destroys your argument right from the start. No, Jerry, we are the Elect. [/26th June, SCOTUS ]
And then Jerry was Jelly . >:D
Well, for starters, because he modified those laws that saw obsoletes and said clearly that the law of Moses, though important, is not the alfa and omega of our lives and that, if something is not valid any longer, you have no obligation to follow it to the letter. He didn´t speak about homosexuality, so maybe it was not a big deal, after all.
*SIGH*
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sin is just an imaginary disease invented to sell you a placebo.
"We were created to know, love and serve Him so we can spend eternity in Heaven with Him."
So essentially we're a slave race? Good to know, guess human history hasn't tought you anything...
"In the days of Moses, the penalty for homosexuality was death by stoning."
Luckily such barbaric times are behind us. ...Or at least it's supposed to be, if it wasn't for you degenerates.
@Scratch
Their reasoning is that Paul declared that the niggling details of the Jewish law weren't necessary for Gentile Christians to observe, at the same time that he made comments in passing that disparaged homosexual behavior. There is an underlying rationale, but it's rather weak. And it exposes one of the fundamental faults in Christianity: that Jesus, the supposed incarnation of God, did NOT design it. It's an overstatement to call Paul the founder of Christianity, but he is more responsible for its form than Jesus is.
So why would Jesus approve of sinful behavior? He wouldn't and He doesn't!
On the other hand, he didn't seem to think it was as especially important as some fundies seem to think it is.
Jesus/God made us in His image and likeness.
Patripassianism is a heresy. If Jesus died on the cross, then so did God the Father, meaning that, after the crucifixion, there was no God; the alternative is, as the Koran states, that Jesus did not die on the cross. You don't proclaim the living god so much as the death of God. Think about whether you like that thought.
The good book condones stoning for certain sins, yet I don't see you arguing for making this a punishment. I am aware that you'd likely argue that this was a sign of the times, but this rubbishes any idea that the Bible is God's word that should be applied to modern times. You can't have it both ways, where the disagreeable parts of the Bible can be excused with the culture of the time and it being God's word that needs to be adhered to now. If you can remove the case for stoning from the bible, then you can do the same with its opposition to homosexuality.
@Jerry
Homosexuality is not a choice.
Also, debating? Debating is how we check our logic. Or how politicians get well-known.
And parental disobedience is not necessarily a bad thing at all.
LOL....I missed that bit from Jerry when I read it the first time....never realized "DEBATING" was some evil, Satanic thing! Right up there with lying and stealing and disobeying parents!
Where in the Bible does it say that again?
Gloomy:
Jerry,
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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