The first prophecy (about Jesus)...is found in Genesis 3.
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.
hers = the person of Jesus Christ
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This is a pretty typical fundy reading of that verse that I've heard from several different sects. Not sure why it's here. I think she's trying to say that Jesus is the offspring of the woman, "hers".
Given "God" said that to "Satan", and basically meant all people will beat all snakes about the head and all snakes will bite all people on the heel, I conclude that your shit knows no bounds!And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
It makes more sense now doesn't it:
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.
And I'm going to mention 3:16, because God really had his panties in a knot and was on a roll!
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Very enlightened...
Capped by the Pastorals (Timothy 2) in the New Testament, written at least 150CE : Women can only be redeemed through silence, submission, subservience and child bearing!
2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Git off teh internets and git nekkid biatch!
Bible prophecy is crap, but you take the crap to it's crappiest level ever. Jeez, Dumdum, you can call anything a prophecy of Jesus if you can take random elements and just assign some Jesus-meaning to them.
Yes, I've heard this very argument put forth in a Sunday School class. I thought it was the most absurd overreaching for retroactive interpretation I had ever heard, but apparently it is accepted as absolutely true by many, many fundies.
Bond: Do you expect me to talk?
Now if Bond = Jesus, Goldfinger = Satan, and die = sacrifice himself so that all mankind can enter heaven, then Goldfinger predicted the New Testament.
Ta da!
Prophesy my arse!
It's simply a way to explain to a primative people why humans and snakes tend not to get on. People kill snakes because they are scared of them, and snakes bite people because they are scared of them.
The 'he' refere to the offsping of both Eve and the serpent.
Why do a bunch of fundies, who normally take allegory as literal, cherry pick verses that are supposed to be semi-literal and take them as allegory/prophesy?
"God is speaking to Satan here."
Fail. God is speaking to the serpent in Eden. In the verse before this, he condemns the serpent to crawl on his belly "all the days of [its] life", yet in Job, Satan has come from "walking up and down" upon the Earth and stands before God, etc.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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