Well, suppose a young man shows up on your doorstep and explains to you that life is an accident--a cosmic joke--and has no real meaning or purpose, his distant relatives were monkeys, morality can be made up as you go along to fit your wants and desires of the moment, and each person is only accountable to himself alone for what he does or doesn't do--would you trust him with your daughter?
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Well, suppose a young man shows up on your doorstep and explains to you that you need to believe that some guy who died 2000 years ago is the son of god, and Jeebus died for his sins, and no matter what he does wrong, since he believes in Jeebus, he will be going to heaven when he dies.
A guy is going to come up to your door, tell you there are no morals, then ask to take out your daughter? WTF?
Well, suppose a young man shows up on your doorstep and explains to you that life is an accident--a cosmic joke--and has no real meaning or purpose, his distant relatives were monkeys morality can be made up as you go along to fit your wants and desires of the moment
This will be the reason he can't get anywhere near my daughter.
each person is only accountable to himself alone for what he does or doesn't do
And I'll partly agree with this part. As long as you are not hurting antone you can do as you please.
If I want to do a acid trip or drink an entire bottle of scotch on one evening I should be allowed to do so as long as others aren't bothered by me.
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Funnilly enough, the young men showing up on my doorstep trying to explain things to me, have mostly been Christian, not Atheist.
"would you trust him with your daughter?"
I'm an atheist, not an idiot.
Probably not. Wouldn't have any problem with the bits about life being an accident or simian ancestry, but the bits about morality would be a red flag (as would be the door-to-door preaching, even if in the name of No God). I'd have to get to know the guy better - there might be hope for him - but my immediate reaction, based on the morals thing, would be no.
If I tried to keep any man from my imaginary daughter, I'd bet she'd disown me and wouldn't talk to be for weeks.
It's sometimes good that my kids are all imaginary; they are so much easier to raise than real life kids.
I'd like to think that I raised my daughters to be smarter than to want to pair off with an admitted sociopath. Yes, the system of morality you described is consistent with sociopathy. However, not all atheists are sociopaths. I am proof of this.
I would further add that not all sociopaths are atheists. RaptureReady seems to be proof of this.
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"Well, suppose a young man shows up on your doorstep and explains to you that life is an accident--a cosmic joke--and has no real meaning or purpose, his distant relatives were monkeys, morality can be made up as you go along to fit your wants and desires of the moment, and each person is only accountable to himself alone for what he does or doesn't do--would you trust him with your daughter? "
Compared to, say, Tony Alamo, Billy James Hargis, Earl Paulk, Joe Barron, Stephen Green, Albert Odulele, and David J. Stewart...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Alamo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals
http://davidjstewartexposed.blogspot.com/
...then the answer is yes. How many prominent Atheists have been exposed as child abusers, nay, paedophiles? You tell me.
Well, suppose a young man shows up on your doorstep and explains to you that life is an accident--a cosmic joke--and has no real meaning or purpose, his distant relatives were monkeys, morality can be made up as you go along to fit your wants and desires of the moment, and each person is only accountable to himself alone for what he does or doesn't do--would you trust him with your daughter?
Wait, why the hell would a guy show up on the doorstep to take a girl out and then just randomly tell her parents all that stuff? I mean, that would pretty much ensure he wouldn't be going on a date. There's no way he'd be that stupid. >_>
Funny, I'd call that boy out on his shit, and I'm an atheist. See, I actually believe in the value of human life without needing to be terrified of an imaginary friend first. I help people because it's the smart thing to do; It builds a healthier community, a happier civilization, and it ensures longer-term prosperity for everyone.
What's your excuse? Oh right, you'll be "tortured for all eternity after you die" with zero punishment in this life. You have less of a reason to be a decent human being, and that, is why we have the Anders Breiviks of the world, the Timothy McVeighs, the Pope killing millions upon millions through AIDS denialist tactics...
I believe there's a little parable about the log in your own eye before the splinter in your neighbour's...
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