1) If Evolution is true then how do you account for Mental Faculties? Atoms banging against one another in randon fasion do not seem to make much since as to how our mental faculties can be reliable. You are stuck with Darwin's Doubt. I find this as a flaw in Atheistic Materialism.
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1) what? reparse, please.
"1) If Evolution is true then how do you account for Mental Faculties?"
What he means by point #1 is that if our mind is material, evolved, and imperfect, we have no reason to think its conclusions mean anything.
What he means by point #1 is that if our mind is material, evolved, and imperfect, we have no reason to think its conclusions mean anything.
What he means by point #1 is that if our mind is material, evolved, and imperfect, we have no reason to think its conclusions mean anything.
<<< Atoms banging against one another in randon fasion do not seem to make much since as to how our mental faculties can be reliable. >>>
The only way hell cannot be unjust is if there are infinite crimes, such as if I were capable of killing an infinite number of people. Then it COULD be just for me to receive infinite punishment. Otherwise, infinite punishment for finite crimes means the punishment does not fit the crime, which is unjust.
How people can respect a religion that starts off with the idea that everyone is born bad and has to pay for past sins unrelated to them I just can't understand. Well, I can actually understand from a cult standpoint, but not from a logical one. As a cult, religion needs a way to scare people into joining, and original sin tends to do that. Even if it's STUPID :P
@awhell
BURN ME AT THE STAKE
1) Show detailed evidence that your Mental Faculties have been engaged. So far, your argument draws your mental faculties into serious question!
"A more humane Mikado never did in Japan exist;The Mikado
I'm the very model of a modern fundie fuckwit - my arguments are so circular, they fit into a bucket! His arguments are so circular, they fit into a bucket
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I'd have to google if I was going to do any more!
One question to you all on the subject of hell...what do you say it is? The biblical view of hell is simply God separating from those who are not His people. In this separating He takes away the common graces He has allowed for every human.
"Nice try... but the biblical view of hell is an everlasting fire to torment the sinners..."
More precisely torment is 2 fold:
- Nezu Chiza
Chuck, your basic analogy is flawed, since according to Xianity we weren't pre-existing beings who just got invited, we were created by Dog specifically to occupy. He didn't ask our opinion, he just put us here. One could argue that this is closer to kidnapping than to an invitation, or to an abusive parent. And frankly, I don't see the utopia you're describing, it's more like a 3yo getting stuck with a 2m high violent parent with a bipolar disorder...
Adrian,
1) Our intelligence is not determined by us having an "intelligent atom" which contains the "intelligence" property. There is such a thing as emergent properties, properties that emerge from the organization of the whole and are not dependent on any one part of the whole. For example, a complete airplane can fly, that doesn't mean that a single part of the plane could fly by itself, or that such a part is what confers the ability to fly onto the whole plane. Flight is a property that emerges from the organization of the whole plane, see?
I find it interesting to note that every time we've had a quote that starts with "if evolution is true, then how..." and then goes off into complete nutbaggery.
I think as an exercise, I'm going to use the search command and see how many fundie-quotes contain the words "if evolution is true"...
1) Guess what? Stuff happens when atoms interact! It's called chemistry, by the way.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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