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The reality of human history is that human beings are rebellious. Historically what force has been able to hold the masses in check ? Only three are apparent:

1. Brute force as in the case if Communism, Fascism, Marxism, and to a lesser degree, socialism.
2. Rigid religious systems with stiff social penalties for disobedience such as is found in Buddhism, Hinduism, or Islam.
3. The freedom and liberty which comes with acknowledging the Christian absolutes as reality.

Bruce Malone, DrDino.com 41 Comments [5/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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shell

Buddhism is rigid and punitive? For real?

5/13/2006 3:36:07 AM

whitewater55

In many cultures, around the globe, no force is necessary. The love of fellow man and recognition of one's place in society are sufficient to the maintenance of peace and good order. As an asside, there are NO stiff penalties for \"disobedience\" under the Buddhists.
As to freedom and liberty under Christian absolutes, I daresay you need to read a little more history, my friend, and spend a little less time with \"DrDino\". Of course, the content of your post gives every indication that you are a warped, twisted fucktard, so I suppose the advice is wasted.

5/13/2006 3:37:24 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Sorry, you're wrong.

5/13/2006 3:50:03 AM

Phil

#3 = #2 (and at times = #1)

5/13/2006 3:53:33 AM

mad dog

Ooh, you seem to be a bit off. Let me proofread for you.

1. Brute force as in the case if Communism, Fascism, Marxism, and to a lesser degree, socialism and to a greater degree, Fundamentalism.
2. Rigid religious systems with stiff social penalties for disobedience such as is found in Buddhism, Hinduism, or Islam and especially Christianity.
3. The freedom and liberty which comes with acknowledging the Christian absolutes as reality and even greater freedoms of NOT.

5/13/2006 3:58:52 AM

JustinGG

Funny how much #3 sounds just like #2, but with the words freedom and liberty thrown in...

5/13/2006 4:07:08 AM

ssdexecutor

Communism, and Marxism!?

So, where do Jews fit in?

5/13/2006 4:21:06 AM

Hadanelith

OK, switch Christian and Buddhism (conjugate as necessary) and this post comes out relatively sane.

5/13/2006 4:28:15 AM

quantumspirit

I guessed it, that Kent Hovind, aka Dr. Dino, would be the new face of the Religious Right. He already is.

5/13/2006 4:56:11 AM

Crosis

Well, he's right about there being three ways to hold the masses in check: make them afraid of what will happen to them in this life, make them afraid of what will happen to them in the afterlife, or make it so they don't mind the current situation. Unfortunately, he seems to mix up what causes the second and third.

Hadanelith's right, this appears almost sane if you switch Buddhism and Christianity - but it's still not quite right, as \"freedom and liberty\" don't require acknowledgement of any religious absolutes at all.

5/13/2006 5:02:00 AM

JadedRevenge

WTF Budhism?


5/13/2006 5:43:54 AM

NotMe

Marxism promotes brute force? Wasn't it about brothership and equality?

Buddhism is a violent \"religion\"? What happened to casting of the earthly desires and living without even killing ants while walking around?

Christianity promotes freedom and equality? But of course that is if you are christian and white. gays, Jews, blacks, Asians, Buddhists, Muslims and all those others are inferior anyway.

5/13/2006 6:43:58 AM

Alejandro

Where are those rebellious Scandinavian, Dutch, British masses who are not held in check by any of the three items?

Oh yeah, they are probably classified under 1. A decent welfare state probably is seen as communistic by this idiot.

5/13/2006 10:35:03 AM

NotMe

Where are those rebellious Scandinavian, Dutch, British masses who are not held in check by any of the three items?


Here I am! And I fear for my life. You know, with all the brute legalized euthanasia and abortions. I might be aborted before I know it, and let's not start about how I might end my own life if it becomes unbearable.

5/13/2006 11:05:31 AM

NonHomogenized

*beats Bruce Malone with a social contract... engraved on a brick*

5/13/2006 9:34:34 PM

Anti-Goth

<2. Rigid religious systems with stiff social penalties for disobedience such as is found in Buddhism, Hinduism, or Islam.
3. The freedom and liberty which comes with acknowledging the Christian absolutes as reality.\">

These statements definitely qualify this for the \"Death by Irony Overdose\" award, IMHO.

5/13/2006 10:32:37 PM

Nick

I'm with Anti-Goth on this one. Death by irony overdose.

By the way, NotMe, Jains are the ones who sweep insects out of their path, etc. (but Buddhism is strongly influenced in some ways by Jainism)

5/14/2006 3:07:18 AM

Professor Maronan

The reality of human history is that human beings are rebellious. Citation, please. What do you mean by \"rebellious?\" Rebellious against who? Historically what force has been able to hold the masses in check ? Only three are apparent:

1. Brute force as in the case if Communism, Fascism, Marxism, and to a lesser degree, socialism. Communism, socialism and Marxism together are redundant. Try deleting one and adding \"fundamentalism.\"
2. Rigid religious systems with stiff social penalties for disobedience such as is found in Buddhism, Hinduism, or Islam. Buddhism has few strict penalties for disobedience. Try removing Buddhism and replacing it with Christianity.
3. The freedom and liberty which comes with acknowledging the Christian absolutes as reality. This point is poorly expressed. Viewing the Christian absolutes as reality has never brought freedom or liberty. Furthermore, your use of the word \"acknowledging\" seems to imply that Christian absolutes are reality. Since point three is redundant with point two, try collapsing it into two, and instead writing:

3. Freedom and liberty for all.

F. See me after class.

5/14/2006 11:06:56 AM

Maronan

Thanks to mad dog for coming up with the \"proofreading\" style and saving me the annoyance of writing large numbers of quote tags.

5/14/2006 11:11:23 AM

The Last Conformist

Is it just me, or is holding anyone in check with freedom and liberty a self-contradiction?

Interesting specimen of brazen elitism, BTW.

5/14/2006 2:25:18 PM

Anti-Goth

Of course not; that's just what we're doing in Iraq and Afganistan!
HEIL BUSH!!!

5/14/2006 10:25:19 PM

Omega3

Y'know what happens when people acknoledge the Christian absolutes as reality? THE CRUSADES happen. FASCISM happens. People are burnt alive because they believe a fractionally different set of absolutes with less stained glass and less Greek.

People die. Horribly. Painfully.

Christian ideals all sound very good on paper, but when you mix them with reality and human nature they become another way to persecute people.

5/15/2006 3:43:04 PM

Abysses

Perhaps he could provide even one example of the third?

Like ever? Freedom and liberty automatically arising in Christian Societies?

5/20/2006 10:16:14 AM

Huffers

I nominate this for the \"Goodthink\" award

5/20/2006 3:22:16 PM



Is he a member of Opus Dei? or a sado-masochist? or both?

7/23/2006 8:54:11 PM
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