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[Divorcing an abusive husband]

2. if you tuely loved the person, wouldnt you want them to get help before you just end the marrige? true, i know there are some objections, but honestly, i know if my daughter (yes, i am a father) married someone that hit her, i know it would be hard for me, but if she truely loved him, it would make her happier to have him get help than to just end the marrige and the last thought of him was an abusive guy.

[RWC] Garland [[VC]], Myspace 40 Comments [5/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Duke Stronguy

Congratulations, you're an asshole.

5/14/2006 4:20:23 AM

Nick

For all our sakes, get yourself sterilized now.

5/14/2006 4:20:47 AM

Napoleon the Clown

You're a delusional sack of shit that shouldn't have children.

5/14/2006 4:23:35 AM

Alex W.

Please, just go die.

5/14/2006 4:24:33 AM

Hadanelith

Napolean:
\"You're a delusional sack of shit that shouldn't have [more] children.\"

Fixed now.

5/14/2006 4:27:12 AM

Sierra

He already has a daughter. That's the scary part.

I told him that he should never let his daughter go back to an abusive man, and he said: \"



2. whoa whoa, i never said id let her go back. i would, but not right away. believe me. id want to him get help though. and if i didnt see change, i wouldnt let her. but id want him to get help, my daughter loves him, so there has to be something in there that makes her happy, happier than any other guy has made her, and i want her to have that happiness again.\"

I hope he wizens the fuck up before she reaches puberty.


5/14/2006 4:37:29 AM

Tara Mobley

I think he does not truly understand abusive relationships.

5/14/2006 4:43:06 AM

Luffy

I hope your daughter rebels and becomes a feminist, so she can look out for herself on that front. Because she's fucked over if she has to rely on you.

5/14/2006 6:06:20 AM

Nightson

At least he's just ignorant, and not one of those dumbfucks who thinks abuse is the fault of the woman

5/14/2006 6:29:14 AM

Julian

I can't believe they think divorce is something you get as a gift with purchase down the Kwik-e-Mart.

5/14/2006 8:15:04 AM

ryan

I know better but I really wish I could pretend this was a joke. I have a hard time beliving any father could encourage his daughter to reconcile with someone who hit her. MMy first instinct would be to kill the abuser. While I am rational enough to back down from that position and let the courts take care of it, the idea that a father would encourage his daughter to stay married to an abuser makes me sick.

I swear this wouldn't happen of the bible portrayed women as equals.

5/14/2006 9:02:00 AM

dykitty

*hits this guy really hard*

5/14/2006 9:17:26 AM

NotMe

The correct actions would be: get a divorce, a law suit and have him send to anger management in this order.

5/14/2006 12:37:04 PM

Maronan

Actually, if there was a way to help the abusive husband, I'm all for it. If he's a drunk, he needs help. If he has mental \"issues,\" he needs to be helped as well.

That said, divorce may be the best choice depending on the situation. Whether to divorce or not is for the abuse victim to decide, not the abusive spouse, OR the victim's parents, OR the victim's church, OR an ancient book of myths.

5/14/2006 1:22:41 PM

Jodie

I bet this guy abuses his wife in one way or another. It would explain why he just expects his daughter to put up with the same when she is married. Xianity makes abhorant treatment of women \"normal\" and the such.

I hate fundies.

5/14/2006 1:53:53 PM

Papabear

I'm pretty sure that if a person is of marriageable age and has violent tendencies it is unlikely that person will change significantly.

As to her happiness, there are plenty of other people in the world with whom she could be happy and not have to fear violence.


I don't really think this guy is so much an asshole as naive and living in a dream-world.

5/14/2006 2:31:33 PM

Aesmael

I agree that someone who is abusive probably needs help, so long as it is understood that if one person no longer wants to be with another no one should stop them.

5/14/2006 4:10:14 PM

AWP

I hope that his daughter finds herself a nice lesbian.

5/14/2006 10:51:34 PM

Nicole

Damn, AWP, beat me to it.

5/15/2006 1:16:47 AM

Skyfire

In Mormon theology, it is *perfectly acceptable* to seek a divorce to end an abusive relationship.

Not only that, but the abusive partner faces excommunication. Not only does that mean being kicked out of the church, it also means that all ordinances the person had performed on them have instantly been voided.

5/15/2006 2:15:10 AM

Julian

Tue love never runs smuth!

5/15/2006 2:39:23 AM

Phil

\"World's Worst Dad\"

5/15/2006 4:30:14 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Originally posted by Skyfire

Not only that, but the abusive partner faces excommunication. Not only does that mean being kicked out of the church, it also means that all ordinances the person had performed on them have instantly been voided.

I seem to recall that certain acts of abuse can result in the abuser being tied by their ankles to a horse (or car these days) and dragged until they stop screaming, though I may just be making stuff up. Boot to the head for wrong answers, as it means you aren't too bright.

No helping, Skyfire.

5/15/2006 4:35:24 AM

Skyfire

*I seem to recall that certain acts of abuse can result in the abuser being tied by their ankles to a horse (or car these days) and dragged until they stop screaming, though I may just be making stuff up. Boot to the head for wrong answers, as it means you aren't too bright.

Look at it this way-

Most of the population of Utah is clustered in just a few small pockets.

That leaves plenty of room to hide things in.

5/15/2006 4:58:51 AM

Mysteriously Anonymous Guy


I swear this wouldn't happen of the bible portrayed women as equals.


If it did, it would have to be changed so that it didn't...

5/15/2006 11:35:09 AM
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