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Sodom and Gamorah were destroyed for this very reason. Biblically it goes against God's word. Scientifically, the "main purpose" of every speices is to reproduce ( funny how God told us that first). That is why every speices has a male and female. If it was natural to be gay, then natuire would design it so that men could be with men and women could be with women and still reproduce. Considering that is not how it happens, homosexuality goes against nature and science. Even the animals that reproduce by themselves have a male and female organ for such reproduction.
To also back these facts, nature has a way of controling itself. If a particular anmal can not survive in an enviroment or is too heavily populated, then dieases start occuring to balance things out. 76% of all homosexuals have aids. This is God using nature to keep things the way that they are suppose to be. If humans were truly meant to be gay. then we would have been designed to be so and still reproduce. But considering that no man has ever had a babby, then I would say that homosexuality is not genetic or natural by any means. On the christian view point, well, there is a whole book against it so I don't really need to explain why and how it is wrong.
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And where in the bible exactly does it say that Sodom and Gamorah were destroyed because of gay people?
And BTW, if god is using diseases to control overpopulation, why would he be giving it to gay people?
"no man has ever had a babby"
Wow. I'm a married hetero woman and I've never had a babby either. Does it hurt?
You know, these people who believe every argument about sexuality comes down to reproduction just flummox me. Say I get uterine cancer and have a hysterectomy tomorrow. Would that mean I should never have sex again, since there's no reason to do it unless it could make a "babby"? How do they not know how idiotic they sound?
S/he isn't even right about S&G, for chrissake.
>>That is why every speices has a male and female<<
Slugs.
>>Even the animals that reproduce by themselves have a male and female organ for such reproduction.<<
Sea Sponges!
>>76% of all homosexuals have aids. This is God using nature to keep things the way that they are suppose to be.<<
Funny how AIDs isn't having the same effect upon the lesbian population. I guess God likes teh wimmins.
>>If humans were truly meant to be gay. then we would have been designed to be so and still reproduce<<
And if we'd been meant to fly, we would've been born with propellers on our noses and wings growing out of our backs!
>>But considering that no man has ever had a babby<<
Not even going to to get into the MPreg fetish jokes here.
>>I would say that homosexuality is not genetic or natural by any means<<
Gay men can still have sex with women (as many gays have, whether it be because of confusion over their sexuality, or from having too much to drink and walking into the wrong bedroom), the vagina does not have a magic force-field around it to repel gay dicks. As well, genes don't have to be active within a parent to be passed on.
@Jo-mamma
That is why every speices has a male and female.
Wrong.
Now be a good little Myspace twat and go whine about your life.
Wow, so what about asexual reproduction and cloning, and hermaphroditic species and animals that can change sex as required.
Oh that's right, they don't exist in your incredibly narrow little world.
SO how many angels can God make dance on your pin head?
<<< That is why every speices has a male and female. >>>
Not true.
<<< If it was natural to be gay >>>
It isn't? Try explaining that to the dozens, if not hundreds, of animal species homosexuality has been observed in.
I think it's a bit like a protoplanetary accretion disc - the bigger it gets, the more easily it attracts insignificant particles and the denser the collective becomes, so both.
Highly charged catalytic particles with sufficient momentum like Sierra will avoid being drawn down.
That is why every speices has a male and female.
The first serious error.
homosexuality goes against nature
You know, if you care to make this kind of claim you should know that homosexuality is blatantly visible in the animal realm.
Even the animals that reproduce by themselves have a male and female organ for such reproduction.
Doesn't this contradict your statement about every species having a male and female?
76% of all homosexuals have aids.
Source?
But considering that no man has ever had a babby
As opposed to all those women having "babbies".
BLESS THE GAY PEOPLE! The less reproduction, the less fuckwits like you turn up.
Luffy: Actually every species displays homosexual behavior. And animals don't shun each other for it. Enlightened beings.
Animals - guided entirely by instinct (that you presumably think your God gave them?) do not shun each other for being gay. What does that tell you? 1) rational thought produces irrational answers, and 2) your God is either really twisted and into paradoxes or an idiot. Or maybe both.
Sodom and Gamorah were destroyed for this very reason.
Wrong. Sodom never existed. It’s a made-up place from an ancient book of myths.
Biblically it goes against God's word.
Yes, an ancient book of myths says that homosexuality is wrong. (Unless you’re God’s favorite child, and have a large number of wives.) The BuyBull also says that you should kill your kids if they insult you, and raping a woman is fine, as long as you pay her father, and marry her afterwards. Nobody gets their morality from the BuyBull nowadays except for a handful of assholes.
Scientifically, the "main purpose" of every speices is to reproduce
You seem to be getting your bullshit mixed up. This is a straw man argument against evolutionary theory, not an argument from false premises against homosexuality.
Are you really suggesting that our main purpose is to reproduce? Are you suggesting that whatever happens to people doesn’t matter as long as they have fifteen children first? In that case, you should oppose homosexuality and abortion, but should also deny rights to sterile couples. You should be violently in favor of polygamy and rape. (Actually, both are approved of in the Wholly Babble!) You should complain to government that they allow people to remain single past their tenth birthdays. (Something that would never have happened back in Biblical times!)
In any case, I shall copy this line into a sticky note on my desktop, just in case you ever say that evolutionary theory reduces us to “just another animal” and that if evolution is true, we should just have sex with everyone.
...( funny how God told us that first).
Funny. God never told any of us anything. God doesn’t exist. God cannot exist without violating the law of non-contradiction. Where'd you get this from, anyway? It's not even in the BuyBull! Sure, God instructs Israelites to reproduce and is big on "multiplying," but he was also pretty big on the ass-kissing demands. If I recall the BuyBull correctly, God is more concerned with whether you kiss his ass than whether you reproduce. Of course, it is kind of noteworthy that this directive to reproduce was in the BuyBull. I mean, we've got a culture with worries of self-defense and possible dreams of taking over other cultures, which requires a lot of manpower. They needed to work the fields, which also requires manpower. They needed to survive outbreaks of disease, which could wipe out a small population completely. How could these people have realized the importance of reproducing quickly without divine intervention?
Is this really an essential part of your religion? If so, I've really got to remember it the next time you say "but evolution means our sole purpose is to reproduce."
That is why every speices has a male and female.
Slugs. Worms. Bacteria. Most plants. Fungi. Need I say more?
If it was natural to be gay...
If? What do you mean, if? We see gay members of nearly every species! Homosexuality is hardly unnatural.
...then natuire would design it so that men could be with men and women could be with women and still reproduce.
I will assume you meant "nature," but only because I can't come up with any means to make fun of your "natuire" spelling at the moment.
Anyway, let me give you a little lesson: If something is seen in nature, it's natural. If something is created by an intelligent individual, it's not natural. Homosexuality is seen often in nature. Therefore, it's natural. You can't say: "It's often seen in nature, but it violates my idea of how things should be done, so it's not really natural.
Considering that is not how it happens, homosexuality goes against nature and science.
Let me say it again: You do not get to define what is "natural." If something is seen often in nature, then it's natural. Therefore, homosexuality is natural. "Natural" means "consistent with what is generally seen in nature," not "consistent with your idea of how nature should work.
Oh, and don't bring science into it. Science says nothing about "should," it only deals with "is." A trait and an action cannot be "against science."
Even the animals that reproduce by themselves have a male and female organ for such reproduction.
What about this?
@YouThat is why every speices has a male and female.
Nice self-contradiction; you did it within one paragraph! Keep practicing, and you'll be able to beat Kent Hovind or even the Bible for sheer speed of self-contradiction.
To also back these facts, nature has a way of controling itself.
Given that you haven't stated any facts, there is nothing that you said for nature to back up. Nature does have a way of "controlling itself," yes, but this has nothing to do with homosexuality.
If a particular anmal can not survive in an enviroment or is too heavily populated, then dieases start occuring to balance things out.
Wrong. Very wrong. I'm reading about a 9.6 on my Wrongness Meter. Let me correct you.
If an animal can't survive in its environment, it dies. Duh. Tautology. Although tautologies are generally ignored by the Wrongness Meter for fear of skewing the results down, this likely saved you from a full 10. The remainder of your remark is clearly wrong. If an environment is too heavily populated, disease does not "start occuring [sic] to balance things out." A dense population might make the spread of diseases faster, but no additional diseases will be introduced. Disease is not significantly more likely than beforehand, and outbreaks of disease will never occur for the specific purpose of "balancing things out." Nature isn't too big on conscious intent. Instead of disease, the large population will put a strain on the environment. Resources (like food) will grow scarce. Eventually, there will not be enough for everyone to eat. Those best adapted to get food will get the limited supply of it, and everyone else will starve. The population is now low again. If the overpopulation changed the environment in some significant way, then whichever individuals are best adapted to this new environment will survive, and the rest will die. The population is now low again.
76% of all homosexuals have aids.
Yeesh! Would you please clean that statistic off after pulling it out of your ass? While you're at it, keep in mind: It's "AIDS" not "aids."
This is God using nature to keep things the way that they are suppose to be.
In case you missed the bulletin, I'll repeat it. Nature "is." Nature isn't "supposed to." Nature isn't big on "should." Outside of conscious minds, there is no such thing as "should" or "supposed to."
Your god doesn't exist. His existence is merely a baseless assertion that you and a number of other people have made. Said people think humans "should" all be heterosexual, so they claim that a magic god is going to punish them for being otherwise. Except, the Christian god supposedly made them homosexual in the first place, so the whole idea is a little bit incoherent.
If humans were truly meant to be gay. then we would have been designed to be so and still reproduce.
We are, stupid! Homosexual men do not go limp in the presence of a woman. Homosexual women do not have force fields surrounding their vaginas that repel men. If you were to make an investment into expanding that narrow little mind of yours, you may learn that humans can reproduce without being engaged in a monogamous marriage with their partner first.
But considering that no man has ever had a babby, then I would say that homosexuality is not genetic or natural by any means.
No man has ever had a babby. No woman has ever had a babby, either. There is no entry in the dictionary for "babby."
Ironically, your post is no less coherent when read literally than when one assumes you mean "baby." Men can't give birth, therefore sexual orientation is not determined by genetics? What is this supposed to mean? [Homsar] Daaa! I'm a song from the sixties! [/Homsar]
On the christian view point, well, there is a whole book against it so I don't really need to explain why and how it is wrong
No, you are the one who is wrong. The BuyBull is not "a whole book against homosexuality." Homosexuality receives a single passing reference condemning it, and a disclaimer that it's OK if you're God's favorite child and have a lot of wives. The BuyBull does nothing to explain why it's wrong, aside from the usual Godsaidso. You still have to explain why it's wrong.
I've never heard anyone make even a slightly convincing case for condemning homosexuality. Any argument against gay marriage is always based on the BuyBull, (because Godsaidso), tradition, (we've always banned gay marriage; we should continue to do something solely because we've done it in the past), or misconception (homosexuality spreads AIDS). No one has ever given me even a weak reason why we should condemn homosexuality. That's why I accept it.
"Wrong. Sodom never existed. It’s a made-up place from an ancient book of myths."
You sure about that? I heard about the ruins of some city being found under the dead sea, but then again, certain people probably just label it as 'Sodom'
The original poster totally slandered me.
If someone is going to sign my name, they should make an accurate representation, and this is a total misrepresentation, misquote, and completely NOT MY WORDS, THOUGHTS, OR OPINIONS!
I spell check all of my posts (I know how to spell baby (not babby) nature (not natuire), animal (not anmal), speces (not speices). I went to college and did alot of writing - you should have at least posted something more convincing than that.
"To also back these facts" - I never use the word also like that. "On the christian view point" - should be "Of the Christian viewpoint" - I always capitalize Christian, I never start a sentence with the word "on", I use viewpoint, not view point.
Homosexuality goes against science? What does that mean? Huh?
"If a particular anmal can not survive in an enviroment or is too heavily populated, then dieases start occuring to balance things out." - WHAT????? That doesn't make any sense at all! What is the relationship between population and disease? With that analogy, Tokyo would be dying of disease! Balance things out??
"76% of all homosexuals have aids." - Okay I NEVER use a percentage symbol (for fear it will screw up the script in postings). I always spell aids AIDS (it IS an acronym). That statement in itself is totally false and off the wall!! If I ever made any statement about stats, I would include a supporting link - and no such supporting link for that statement exists.
"This is God using nature" - terrible word usage. I would have said "This is God's way of using...."
"there is a whole book against it so I don't really need to explain why and how it is wrong." - That's the most lame statement. I would refer to the Bible by name, quote scripture as it applies to my assertion. What good are assertions without support?
"But considering that no" - I never start a sentence with "but"
Shame on you, Bruce (Mestilf) - you really are showing your immaturity - you posting that was slanderous, cowardly, and something I would imagine a 10 year old would do. Is this your way of getting even for being banned, or when your discussion doesn't go your way? You have absolutely no personal integrity at all!
GROW UP AND ACT YOUR AGE!
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their inhospitableness.
God told you first to not gain knowledge.
Not every species has a male and a female. Many species have a male and many females. Among many species only the alpha female gets to have offspring. Amoebas just split.
It is natural to be gay, it's natures safety valve against over population, and to ensure that there is a surplus of adults who can take care of the offspring if something happens to the parents.
Some humans are meant to be gay, most are meant to be heterosexuals.
There are more heterosexuals with AIDS around the world than there are homosexuals with AIDS.
As people are born gay, it IS natural to be gay. It might be genetic, we don't know.
There is most definitely NOT a whole book against it. It's one measly sentence against it. The same book is also against working on the Sabbath, much more than just one sentence.
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