Because the Bible can not be "proven or disproven", then evolutionists have to create strawman arguements and try to falsify their own strawman. Their favorite is to make up their own YEC theory and then they try to falsify their strawmen version of the theory. I see them do this over and over on this forum like a broken record.
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I think this is for a Mirror Award rather than Pot and Kettle, because not only what he says applies perfectly to creationism, it also does not apply at all to evolution. P&K is more adecuate for Chirstian fundies talking about the faults of other religions.
Hahahahahaha!ever seen a YEC theory from anyone, creationist or evolutionist. I've seen a bunch of YEC WAGs (wild-assed guesses), and a lot of YEC UIAs (unsupported incorrect assertions) but not a single theory.
Oh, and I don't think any post could be more deserving of the "mirror, mirror" award
<<< The law of excluded middle states that God must either be able to be proven or he is either able to be disproven. >>>not mean that either can be proven to be true. (In fact, any consistent system in mathematics has true statements that cannot be proven so.)
<<< If we carefully research the evidence, we can see that God can actually be proven but not disproven. >>>
Mind sharing a bit of this evidence, or is it all pulled from your ass?
<<< It is irrational to state of something that it can be proven and disproven at the same time >>>
No shit, Sherlock.
<<< which the statement can't be proven or disproven logically infers >>>
Incorrect. How does "cannot be A and cannot be B" imply "can be both A and B simultaneously"? (Hint: it doesn't. It in fact means exactly the opposite - if it cannot be A, it cannot be (A&B) either.)
<<< Refer to the self evident laws of logic 1) law of excluded middle either a or b, not both or anything in between. >>>
If by "b" you mean "not a", then yes. However, "provable" and "disprovable" are not logical complements (they are mutually exclusive but not exhaustive). "Not provable" and "disprovable" are different (the latter is a subset of the former).
<<< 2) law of noncontradiction, both a and b can not be true at the same time >>>
Also true, given the same conditions as above.
<<< When we look at the Bible, the contradictions are becoming less and less everyday >>>
Unless the Bible is itself changing, this is so obviously false it shouldn't even need a refutation.
<<< There is nothing in the Bible that fails based on the 2nd law of logic (the law governing logic). >>>
The two mutually contradictory creation stories, for starters. There are dozens more.
Anonymous - I hope for your sake you're just trolling... If you believe any of that you're too sad for words!When we look at the Bible, the contradictions are becoming less and less everyday
Opening and closing derogatory comments are lovely troll remarks too, as are pretending you know eveything.
Begone fool!
This is a classic example of what YEC'ers are doing. They take a semi-complex concept like strawman arguments (from us), and just throw it into a sentence without understanding what it means. "You said my argument is strawman? No, it's not, but what is yours." I hate to phrase it this way, but if they were going to follow logic in the first place, they'd probably disagree with YEC.
No, creationists make a caricature of evolution because they're too insecure about their beliefs to truly show the truth about other side. Evolution also has evidence. Creationism has assertions. Talk Origins pretty much knocked all the assertions down.
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“Because the Bible can not be "proven or disproven",”
“then evolutionists have to create strawman arguements and try to falsify their own strawman.”
"Their favorite is to make up their own YEC theory”
“ I see them do this over and over on this forum like a broken record.”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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