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[About the Simpsons episode on Evolution vs Creationism: "Wish there could be more in real life. Presenting the notion of some invisible sky daddy poofing people into existence along side serious scientific displays would demostrate how silly the entire creationist argument is."]

Next to a "serious" science display where evolution poofs them into existance. Showing how silly the theory of evolution is. About the time evolutionists need lisa simpson to be a spokesperson for them, they are in trouble. They have lost contact with what it means to be serious.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 24 Comments [5/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Bob_Zimmerman

o_O That's just being profoundly, stupidly obtuse about it.

Evolution doesn't propose that things \"poof\" into existence. In fact, it directly proposes that all of this takes tremendous amounts of time to happen, unlike young-earth creationism, which proposes a literal six earth days in which everything was created.

Secondly, political cartoons are always valid pulpits from which to point out issues (and make no mistake, The Simpsons has certainly had its political moments).

5/16/2006 4:34:56 PM

Dante's Virgil

Well, Ned Flanders certainly wasn't winning the Christian side any points...

5/16/2006 4:40:18 PM

Amos

Well, of course. A \"poof\":
1) takes billions of years,
2) is best represented by a chain of natural causes and effects.

It's so simple!

5/16/2006 4:44:33 PM

Captain Slack

I have nothing to add to this; I just wish Bob_Zimmerman's mind could be copied into the (alleged) brain of the \"Robert Zimmerman\" who used to be wingnut talking points at Pandagon. But yeah, JohnR7 is achieving a level of obtuseness that I don't think can be adequately explained by any level of stupidity that still enables him to operate a computer.

5/16/2006 5:23:29 PM

David D.G.

Willingly and deliberately rounded at the free ends.


~David D.G.

5/16/2006 5:26:47 PM

mad dog

Oh man, I wish I saw this episode

5/16/2006 5:41:58 PM

Papabear

\"Next to a 'serious' science display where evolution poofs them into existance.\"

No, evolution takes a long, long time, Dumdum, it doesn't \"poof\" anything into existance. That's one of the things that distinguishes it from creationism.


\"Showing how silly the theory of evolution is.\"

Though your sentence is incomplete, I think I understand your point. It's amusing to me that someone who believes in Xianity, with all it's utter absurdities, would be calling the ToE, a theory backed up by mountains of evidence, \"silly.\"


\"About the time evolutionists need lisa simpson to be a spokesperson for them, they are in trouble. They have lost contact with what it means to be serious.\"

Better Lisa Simpson than Kent Hovind. If it takes cartoons to get the point across, I say why not. Of course, the Simpsons are probably too advanced and subtle for you.

5/16/2006 5:46:28 PM

Napoleon the Clown

Somehow I doubt that any group of scientists aproached Groening and said \"Please make an episode about creationism vs. evolution!!!\"

More likely it was their writers wanting to make a controversial episode. Then again, rational thought was rarely the strong point of fundie morons.

5/16/2006 5:53:08 PM

Rosie

You can watch it online here
http://snipurl.com/qjnw

(Via Pharyngula)


5/16/2006 5:54:51 PM

Late_Cretaceous

I wonder why he expects the sompsons to be serious.

5/16/2006 6:08:13 PM

mad dog

\"About the time evolutionists need lisa simpson to be a spokesperson for them, they are in trouble. They have lost contact with what it means to be serious.\"

Umm, Lisa is supposed to be the smart one on the show.

5/16/2006 6:41:29 PM

Babbleon

Dear John,

Thanks for once again adeptly demonstrating the utter vacuity of creationist arguments.

5/16/2006 6:44:34 PM

whitewater55

I think Lisa Simpson is a much better spokesperson then, say, Kent Hovind. How about a vote, gang? Who is more trustworthy Lisa or Kent?

5/16/2006 10:05:31 PM

Crosis

David, I've never heard the phrase \"rounded at the free ends\" before (except in a few of your other posts). My curiosity has finally gotten the better of me. What exactly do you mean by that?

5/16/2006 10:55:15 PM

Alex W.

JohnR7 and Justin Shanahan have really kicked the stupid up a noch this month.

5/16/2006 11:43:43 PM

Julian

Well, in the episode where Bart and Homer converted to Catholicism (can't find the ridiculous denomination The Simpsons were)

Bart said:
Easy on the zeal Churchos… I've got something to say. Don't you get it? It's all Christianity, people! The little stupid differences are nothing next to the big stupid similarities!

5/16/2006 11:56:39 PM

Aesmael

But there can be no such serious display showing evolution. Even were creationists to create one with serious intent it would be inevitably hilarious.

5/17/2006 2:37:46 AM

Prager

Dear JohnR7,
If it came to a choice between Dr. Dino and Lisa Simpson as a spokesperson: without hesitation, I would choose Lisa. (She does seem to know what she’s talking about.) Have a nice day.

5/17/2006 11:33:38 AM

Xi

You know, not to weaken our arguement here, but I have to go off topic. Sometimes Lisa is wrong.

Do you know how many times I had to explain that the coriolis effect doesn't have much to do with toilets?

5/17/2006 12:15:16 PM

mad dog

Yes, and one time, Lisa made the mistake of creating an elaborate thanksgiving display. She should have known better around Bart.

5/17/2006 2:42:39 PM

David D.G.

Crosis #40135

<< David, I've never heard the phrase \"rounded at the free ends\" before (except in a few of your other posts). My curiosity has finally gotten the better of me. What exactly do you mean by that? >>

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In an episode of \"WKRP in Cincinnatti,\" Mr. Carlson's bratty son is visiting the station, and Les Nessman bribes him $5 to find out what his grandmother says about him. The kid reports that Mother Carlson says he is \"obtuse.\"

Les, unfamiliar with the word but finding it impressive-sounding, thinks it's a compliment---until he reads a dictionary and finds the definitions listed, the last of which is \"rounded at the free ends.\" And then he's furious with the kid because, as he tells someone, \"I just paid five bucks to find out that I'm rounded at the free ends!\"

It became a running gag in my circle of friends at one point that when someone was REALLY obtuse, he was \"rounded at the free ends,\" meaning that he was completely incapable of recognizing just how obtuse he was, even when it was defined for him!


~David D.G.

5/17/2006 2:50:24 PM

Alejandro

Also don't forget that when the Movimentarian cult took over Springfield Lisa submitted to them and only Marge resisted. Though IMO that was wildly out of character.

5/17/2006 3:25:24 PM

The Last Conformist

I think Lisa Simpson is a much better spokesperson then, say, Kent Hovind. How about a vote, gang? Who is more trustworthy Lisa or Kent?

I'd be more inclined to believe Baghdad Bob on the presence of American tanks in Baghdad than Hoodwinked Hovind on anything.

5/23/2006 7:31:47 PM

Adrian

Lisa FTW!

6/27/2006 5:48:31 AM
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