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The Bible is NOT a Jewish Book
The statement is commonly made, even by those who should know better, that we Christians owe a debt to the Jews, for we got our Bible and our religion from them. While many people have been deceived into believing this, it is completely false. . . we got neither our Bible nor our Christian religion, either in whole or in part from those who were Jews, either by religion or by race. We owe them no debt, for they gave us nothing.

Bertrand L. Comparet, Biblebelievers.org 28 Comments [5/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Bob_Zimmerman

Jesus was a jew. Check and mate.

5/23/2006 6:31:43 AM

NotMe

He is completely right, except for the fact that the OT is part of the Thora, Jesus was a Jew and without the Jewish wish for Jesus' execution he wouldn't have suffered for the sins of mankind but lived to a ripe old age. Or as old as people got in those days.

5/23/2006 6:38:08 AM

Julian

Yep, that pretty much covers it...

Except it wasn't just the Torah, but the Nevi'im and the Ketuvim too!

Who pays attention to those silly commandments anyway.

Oh, and they invented Yahweh too!

5/23/2006 6:38:23 AM

Prager

See all previous comments. Sorry, Bert, but you lose.

5/23/2006 7:00:59 AM

Ionakana

I think we can call this a triumph of fact over prejudice. It astounds me how someone can be so vociferous in their faith, yet at the same time deny its historical foundations.

5/23/2006 7:20:20 AM

NKF

One question I have is why did BLC take three sentences to make such a simple statement? It's not like he was supporting his assertion with reason or evidence...

Let this be a lesson kids, no matter how much you repeat a false statement, it will never become right.

5/23/2006 7:21:24 AM

JadedRevenge

NKF: Unless the people listening to you are morons, in which case it becomes fact.

So is this a sort of \"it has nothing to do with the Jews because I don't like the Jews\"

5/23/2006 7:24:22 AM

Napoleon the Clown

\"Rewriting History\" Award?

5/23/2006 7:29:41 AM

bjbj1991

If copywrite laws lasted longer back then, everyone would be a pagan.

5/23/2006 8:19:10 AM

Dante's Virgil

History is screaming in agony now.

5/23/2006 12:47:40 PM

mad dog

Hey Bert, go find Ernie, and read the bible together.

5/23/2006 1:14:44 PM

McCulloch

What part of Christianity is not Jewish?
Jesus apparently fulfilled Jewish prophesy. Jesus was Jewish. Paul was Jewish. Peter was Jewish. All of the writers of the Old Testament were Jewish (probably). Most of the writers of the New Testament were Jewish.
I'd nominate for \"Re-writing History\"

5/23/2006 2:19:04 PM

David D.G.

Hey, check it out; it's \"The Revised Standard Version\" of History!


~David D.G.

5/23/2006 2:30:20 PM

Gadren

Now, what I'm wondering is this: if the Bible and Christianity didn't come from the Jews, then who did it come from? The Aryans?

5/23/2006 3:00:40 PM

sadchristian

And racism is not alive and well on Christian boards?

5/23/2006 3:04:22 PM

TDR

sez yew.

5/23/2006 3:45:42 PM

whitewater55

I am tempted by the obvious Godwin, but I think he would take it as a compliment. So, I will call a fuckwit a fuckwit and be done with it.
FUCKWIT!

5/23/2006 4:16:14 PM

Gerard

Seriously the whole OT story is actually situated in Finland. Everybody knows that.

5/23/2006 5:46:21 PM

Jodie

\"We owe them no debt, for they gave us nothing.\"

As several people have already pointed out: they gave you Jesus Christ - you know, the guy that is the whole basis of Christianity.

You are a stupid bigotted fuckwit, Mr. B.L. Comparet.

5/23/2006 7:15:39 PM

ssdexecutor

You can't refute something by just saying \"Nuh-uh.\"

5/23/2006 7:51:10 PM

Maronan

The Christian Bible is not a \"Jewish book,\" in the sense of Jews considering it to be Truth. Only Christians do that. However, the content of the Christian Bible is largely plagiarized from the Torah, with some parts stolen from Pagan religions.

5/23/2006 9:57:13 PM

Crosis

Let's see ... the entire Old Testament, Jesus himself, most of the original Christians (though not all) ... yeah, you owe them nothing.

5/24/2006 12:45:56 AM

The Last Conformist

Seems to be that Christians' opinion on the Bible is inversely proportional to how much understanding of it they have.

5/24/2006 9:15:52 PM

Julian

\"What have the Romans ever done for us award\"?

http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk/whattheromans.html

What Have the Romans Ever Done For Us?
From \"Monty Python's Life of Brian\"

The interior of MATTHIAS'S HOUSE. A darkened room with a very conspiratorial atmosphere. REG and STAN are seated at a table at one end of the room. FRANCIS, dressed in Activist gear — black robes and a red sash around his head — is standing by a plan on the wall. He is addressing an audience of about eight MASKED ActivistS. Their faces are partially hidden.


Francis: We get in through the underground heating system here... up through to the main audience chamber here... and Pilate's wife's bedroom is here. Having grabbed his wife, we inform Pilate that she is in our custody and forthwith issue our demands. Any questions?

Xerxes: What exactly are the demands?

Reg: We're giving Pilate two days to dismantle the entire apparatus of the Roman Imperialist State and if he doesn't agree immediately we execute her.

Matthias: Cut her head off?

Francis: Cut all her bits off, send 'em back every hour on the hour... show him we're not to be trifled with.

Reg: Also, we're demanding a ten foot mahogany statue of the Emperor Julius Caesar with his cock hanging out.

Stan: What? They'll never agree to that, Reg.

Reg: That's just a bargaining counter. And of course, we point out that they bear full responsibility when we chop her up, and... that we shall not submit to blackmail.

Omnes: (Applause) No blackmail!

Reg: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, not just from us, from our fathers and from our fathers' fathers.

Stan: And from our fathers' fathers'
fathers.

Reg: Yes.

Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

Reg: All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?

Xerxes: The aqueduct.

Reg: Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That's true.

Masked Activist: And the sanitation!

Stan: Oh yes... sanitation, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like.

Reg: All right, I'll grant you that the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done...

Matthias: And the roads...

Reg: (sharply) Well yes obviously the roads... the roads go without saying. But apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads...

Another Masked Activist: Irrigation...

Other Masked Voices: Medicine...
Education... Health...

Reg: Yes... all right, fair enough...

Activist Near Front: And the wine...

Omnes: Oh yes! True!

Francis: Yeah. That's something we'd really miss if the Romans left, Reg.

Masked Activist at Back: Public baths!

Stan: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now.

Francis: Yes, they certainly know how to keep order... (general nodding)... let's face it, they're the only ones who could in a place like this.

(more general murmurs of agreement)

Reg: All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?

Xerxes: Brought peace!

Reg: (very angry, he's not having a good meeting at all) What!? Oh... (scornfully) Peace, yes... shut up!

5/25/2006 12:00:06 AM

The Meromorph

Look the guy lived with his parents until his thirties.
He went into his father's business.
And until the day he died, he thought his mother was a virgin, and she thought he was God Almighty.

Of course he was Jewish!

5/26/2006 2:27:12 AM
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