If there is no God, then there is no bible. If there is no bible, then there are no absolutes. If there are no absolutes, then there is no morality. If there is no morality, then men get to choose which laws are to be lived by and then there basically is no law........... there is only lawlessness.
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There would still be empathy, ethics, sense of community and of fair play. It simply wouldn't be driven by your mythology. I think it's rather pathetic when you folks try to claim ownership of right and wrong based on your concept of thought crimes such as sin. Oh, and my late father was an Attorney and my youngest brother is a state corrections officer, a lieutenant in fact. We certainly do have laws. They just don't depend on your whimsical yet awful book of mythology. And I am a long time fan of Jerry Reed. I hope you know "Amos Moses" was a criminal.
Whole lotta fallacies here. (1) there's no god, but (2) there is still a bible. (3)We still have all the same absolutes that we had before. People exist, some of whom depend on you and some of whom you depend upon in some way. You do your duty: you earn a living to feed your kids. The people from whom you buy a loaf of bread or a frozen chicken or a bottle of hot sauce all had to do THEIR duties to bake the bread or brew the hot sauce.
The guy at the gas station did his duty and kept the pumps opened so you could gas your car. You did your duty by driving on the proper side of the road and not blasting through stop lights. THERE IS LAW, driven by the absolute that you are not alone on this planet, and you and the other occupants have a responsibility to each other. Atheist societies just keep on ticking in precisely that way. The only ones that suffer are the bible-printers, but I'm sure they could be retrained.
You choose which laws in the Bible to follow and hold other people responsible too. Or if you yourself didn't, your religious tradition did at some point.
Since the Bible contradicts itself (or if it isn't contradicting itself, is making itself extremely vague) in matters both minor and major. Therefore, it isn't a good book to base morality off of. Especially because the way Bible God himself acts is completely different then how he demands humans act--absolute morality for humans, moral relativism for God.
"If there is no God, then there is no bible."
A huge, catastrophic bellyflop, right out of the gate.
But there is the US Constitution. Also, Magna Carta and the European Declaration on Human Rights. There is secular democratic Rule of Law. Therefore lawlessness is controlled. By men - and women - periodically elected to become the lawmakers in secular democratic societies, therefore there are absolutes. The Bible was absolutely written by men . Ergo, there is no 'God'. Otherwise explain - in said societies - legalisation of same-sex marriage, when there was nothing stopping your 'God' from arguing the toss in said secular democratic houses of legislation by appearing in physical form in such places: or is Romans 13:1-5 just a little too literal for your liking, and either your 'God' has changed his mind on his previous doctrine; or ...!
Q.E. and fucking D.
"If there is no bible, then there are no absolutes. If there are no absolutes, then there is no morality. If there is no morality, then men get to choose which laws are to be lived by and then there basically is no law........... there is only lawlessness."
But there is a Koran.
"If there is no God, then there is no bible."
There can still be a bible with no god.
Confused?
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