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Because I know what the scientific "evidence" is but I just don't buy it. I believe that if evolution were true and we descended from apes, that is Man came from apes because we evolved from a lower into a higher being, then apes would have slowely died out. And why did all humans evolve in the exact same way? How did all the organs evolve and still work? You see all of the organs are needed to sustain life and if we came from one molecule, that one molecule needed the entire package in order to live. But to me science dosen't prove that molecules could have done that. Why isn't there half ape half man? Why don't some have wings? We could use wings, that would get us places faster and if evolution is true then maybe we would have evolved into that. I know that all seems corny and stupid to you, but its the little questions like that that just make evolution so unbelievable. Hey I didn't inherit Christianity and that was it. I looked at both choices and decided that A created world is much more feasable. That's just what I believe given the evidence. Evolution severly violates the law of non-contradiction. Which makes it an impossibility.
It shouldn't be a huge deal that people believe otherwise but scientists have a hardcore agenda and does not tolerate creationists. Which is silly and wrong, and to me hurts their case even further.

inverter, POD Warrior Forum 9 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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HairlessMonkeyDK

\"I believe that if evolution were true and we descended from apes, that is Man came from apes because we evolved from a lower into a higher being, then apes would have slowely died out.\"

Learn what the ToE actually says before attempting to critique it.

\"And why did all humans evolve in the exact same way?\"

Populations evolve, dumbass; not individuals on a one-by-one basis.

\"How did all the organs evolve and still work? You see all of the organs are needed to sustain life and if we came from one molecule, that one molecule needed the entire package in order to live.\"

There's so much wrong with this, I almost give up.
All organs are needed to sustain life? Nope. But that is neither here nor there, really.
The real stupidity is the claim that the molecule MUST HAVE HAD THE ENTIRE PACKAGE FROM THE START!
The word -evolve-... its meaning escapes you completely, doesn't it?


\"Why isn't there half ape half man?\"

There was... or something close to it.

\"Why don't some have wings? We could use wings, that would get us places faster and if evolution is true then maybe we would have evolved into that.\"

This one is too silly to even argue. So I'll just turn it back at you:
If wings are so neato-keen-spectaculoso-tubular-to-the-max... well, why the HELL didn't Gawd give us them, huh? HUH?!?


\"I know that all seems corny and stupid to you,\"

No shit!

\"but its the little questions like that that just make evolution so unbelievable.\"

Dumb questions made by ignorant people doesn't make the ToE unbelievable
to anyone but dumb, ignorant people.


\"Hey I didn't inherit Christianity and that was it. I looked at both choices and decided that A created world is much more feasable. That's just what I believe given the evidence.\"

If that is what you believe \"given the evidence\", I fervently hope you never end up on a jury.

\"Evolution severly violates the law of non-contradiction. Which makes it an impossibility.\"

It does no such thing. Religion, however, fits that description like a customized condom.

\"It shouldn't be a huge deal that people believe otherwise but scientists have a hardcore agenda and does not tolerate creationists. Which is silly and wrong, and to me hurts their case even further.\"

Keep creationism/ID out of science class where it has no place, then.
And take such a class yourself; you're in dire need of it!

11/20/2006 11:30:14 AM

Allegory for Jesus

-We didn't evolve from apes, we evolved into different niches alongside them.
-Humans "evolve in the exact same way" because evolution works at the level of populations and a new species evolves from a single, small population.
-The organs were in place well before human evolution and bringing it up when expressing incredulity over apes is very entertaining.
-Abiogenesis isn't evolution.
-There are several intermediate species that show intermediate ape and human traits.
-Evolution isn't magic and wings have biological costs and making wings actually functional has even larger costs.
-Evolution doesn't contradict anything, even in the cases stated above. The law of non-contradiction doesn't apply.
-Scientists "not tolerating" non-science isn't silly and wrong: it is how science works.

4/24/2011 9:25:43 PM

Justanotheratheist

Oh for fuck's sakes, not this shit again. Common ancestor, idiot.

As for the rest of this word salad - fuck it. Use paragraphs next time and maybe I'll bother to read it all. Or maybe not.

4/25/2011 2:39:29 AM

Professor von SCIENCE!!!

Ok, neither the x-men nor pokemon are accurate explanations of evolution.

2/1/2013 8:29:32 PM

Blarghonius

You like creationism because it doesn't make your tiny brain hurt.

2/2/2013 11:26:42 PM

Swede

I bet you have heard about scientific "evidence" from people who have their own hardcore agenda of keeping the masses uneducated, scared and looking in another direction.

Humans ARE great apes, and we share common ancestors with all the other great apes, apes and monkeys, mammals, vertebrates, animals, eukaryotes, and also with the prokaryotes.

Evolution isn't necessarily from lower to higher, but it is necessarily from non-adaptable, to adaptable. Species evolve, not individuals. If you want to see organs evolving and not working, check out miscarriages and stillborns. Molecules don't need the same organs as we do to sustain life.

What do you mean, "both choices"? There are several different more or less scientific choices, and thousands of creation myths. The Bible manages to contradict itself as early as in the second chapter of the first book; in which order where animals and man created?

You are free to believe whatever you want in your private life. But in society, we stick to reality, facts and evidence. That is our hardcore agenda and it does not tolerate mixing myths and fairy-tales with facts. You're the silly one and boy, do you hurt your case even further with this tripe!

2/3/2013 1:34:10 AM

Canadiest

"but scientists have a hardcore agenda and does not tolerate creationists."

The Dominionists Wedge argument. That science must accept another belief, that it can't have a criteria of fact-based evidence that excludes the supernatural myths. It can.

Until your Creationists come up with some evidence of your God creation belief you can't call yourself scientific or based on fact. The 'you must believe' assertion only works with the already indoctrinated as you have been already trained to 'never doubt the word of God' and to have 'blind and unwavering faith'
"A created world is much more feasable."
An indoctrinated belief with absolutely no validity.

"and to me hurts their case even further."

No, it would be a violation of the scientific principles to accept an unproven concept.

2/3/2013 7:46:49 AM



way back along time ago and far away there was a creature that had kids. Some time later its kids, grandkids and great^n-kids had changed slightly. great-nephew clyde became an orangutan, Others became gorrillas, chimps, neanderthals, australopithicus and many others.
Some branches of the family died out, some thrived in new places.

And so it goes.

2/3/2013 10:55:56 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"I believe that if evolution were true and we descended from apes...then apes would have slowely died out."

- Wow, like we haven't heard, and refuted, that one a thousand times

2/3/2013 3:56:20 PM
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