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"There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State.
Trump won 46 of them.
Clinton won 16.
Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.
In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)
Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.
When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.
Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country."
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Ah, the smell of bullshit in the morning. Even if your "math" is correct, so what? Trump did not win those counties by hug majorities. A few dumb red necks should not get to determine who runs the free world.
"Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.""
Election fraud shouldn't choose the president of our country.
"When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election."
People vote. Land doesn't.
It's quite absurd to insist that the vast rural areas should dictate to the majority in the cities.
Anything to keep from admitting that your demagogue won on a technicality and that nobody really likes him.
Clinton won the majority of the vote and but that doesn't mean she should win the election because why, exactly? The only reason I'm picking up is because liberals tend to live in cities and you don't like them.
"Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country."
Nah, clearly it's better for empty states like Wyoming and Montana and Oklahoma to choose the President, right?
I'm sorry, but when one Wyoming vote is worth FOUR New York votes, something is seriously fucked up with the US election system.
>>Even if your "math" is correct, so what? Trump did not win those counties by hug majorities. A few dumb red necks should not get to determine who runs the free world.
So all Trumpers are rednecks, half of the country roughly.
Good, good, show me your liberal elitist hatred you cunts.
I loved TYT crew's tears.
>"Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.""
>>>Election fraud shouldn't choose the president of our country.
You mean undocumented votemeister Hillary?
When we're done arguing about the sketchy origins of the electoral college (related to slavery) there is still the matter of Crosscheck software used to cancel out the votes of completely legal US citizens and the evidence that Russians have been fucking with our election system since at least August. If a security agency spokesman says publicly that there's smoke, you can bet the classified truth is there's a 4-alarm fire.
Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country."
Right! And they shouldn't have to pay for the billions of dollars in agriculture subventions for the fly over, crap on states either.
Oops, I guess you forgot about that. And by the way, guess where your Neo-Jesus Donald lives. Hint: not in Kansas.
@nazani14: It's not directly related to slavery, it's more related to the idea that the founders didn't really... trust the common people. (It should be pointed out that actually electing your actual head of state was a fairly radical idea and they weren't sure how well it would work.)
The original conceit of the electoral college is that you would vote for someone you trusted to pick the President, and then that person would vote for the President in your stead, much like how you vote for Representatives to make laws instead of voting on the laws themselves. There's also a practical element: in the 18th century transportation took forever and it was virtually impossible for candidates to connect to voters. Connecting to a group of chosen electors was easier.
Of course in practice it didn't work out that way, electors very early on made it clear who they were voting for (this went hand in hand with political parties developing, another instance where the founders' wishes went by the boards early on) and over time that became tradition and then law. But the fact remains that it was, basically and most broadly, an anti-populist measure (which makes the fact that it elected Trump some kind of sick irony).
FYI: It wouldn't have had any bearing on slavery because the President had no authority vis-a-vis slavery. Even Lincoln only got his foot in the door on that topic as a wartime measure for the disposition of military "property". The Senate, from which the voting structure of the Electoral College took its shape, actually favored the smaller New England states at the time.
And should a major demographic shift take place and the large spans of countryside start voting Democrat, you'll be howling for the dismantling of the electoral college. It only works when it works for you, isn't that how it goes Jimbo?
">"Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.""
>>>Election fraud shouldn't choose the president of our country.
You mean undocumented votemeister Hillary?"
Yep, Hilary had millions of unregistered voters. Trump says so! So why not recount the votes and make sure everything was on the up-and-up?
Oh, wait, your God-Emperor is also arguing that it's not necessary to recount votes, despite the apparently rampant voter fraud he claims has gone on... Strange, isn't it?
And should a major demographic shift take place and the large spans of countryside start voting Democrat, you'll be howling for the dismantling of the electoral college. It only works when it works for you, isn't that how it goes Jimbo?
This is just one of the many pieces of propaganda we will see. It could get seriously worse by February.
There's a concerted effort by waves of fake news sites to pretend Trump won by a huge (fake) margins and to discount Hills now 2.5 million lead in the popular vote. (Romney only lost by half a million and that was consider a good beating)
Expect a lot of bullshit, this is gonna be surpassing all the lies and stupidity we saw during the W years, and that's a lot of bullshit.
@Canadiest
"Expect a lot of bullshit, this is gonna be surpassing all the lies and stupidity we saw during the W years, and that's a lot of bullshit."
So many are regretting their decision after 'Brexit'. Now that Parliament only has the legal right to decide; what's Nige FaRAGE going to do if the MPs in Westminster decide to not decide? It could drag on for years, and Tony Blair said recently that a 'Soft Brexit' could basically render the whole idea useless. Status quo is not just a band...!
The effect on our economy already; my neighbour's brother afeared for his job & house, should the French-based company he works for upping sticks & leaving the country: and he voted 'Leave'. At least I can say, with conscience clear 'Don't Blame Me: I Voted Remain '.
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So many in the US will be able to say 'Don't Blame Me: I Voted For Clinton ',
And rather soon, by the looks of things already; at best Donald Fart will be just another irrelevance like Ford & Bush I. How many 'MAGA Hat'-wearers will become disillusioned, realising that their God-Emperor has no hair...?!
Confused?
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