We are committing national and cultural suicide through abortion.
I think of the Stalin-era levels of abortion - 7 or 8 abortions per woman - under the old Soviet Union.
I ask our abortionist each day: "WHO are you aborting today?"
The deathscorts usually reply "Jeffrey Dahlmer" or "sidewalk counselors," thinking they are being clever. But, in fact, this just goes to show that they really do believe in the death penalty for the innocent - for those who have not committed any crime.
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WHO are you
Roger Daltrey, Keith Moon or Pete Townshend, WGC or Ice Cream Boy?
In Soviet Russia, you are WHO?!
"I ask our abortionist each day: "WHO are you aborting today?"
The deathscorts usually reply "Jeffrey Dahlmer" or "sidewalk counselors," thinking they are being clever."
Does anyone ever answer "Who was born decades ago. He became a professional baseball player, first base!"
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I think you failed history as badly as you failed at everything else
HOW many unwanted children have you adopted, Crazy? WHO is to pay for the housing, food, healthcare of all these unwanted children? WHY didn't they use contraceptives instead?
You have an abortionist of your own?
I'd say you have to have a functioning nervous system to be innocent; you have to be able to NOT be innocent in order to ACTUALLY be innocent.
"I think of the Stalin-era levels of abortion - 7 or 8 abortions per woman - under the old Soviet Union."
That line makes me think of jews kill babies to get blood for their crackers - under the old Nazi Germany. Which outlawed abortion.
Now I'm not trying to start anything here, but what do any prochoicers actually think that fetuses count as humans. I know most abortions happen before they even have a brain, but do any you guys agree with some assertions that a babys only a baby once it leaves the womb?If so why?
@THX: The question isn't actually about personhood. That's a simple redirect the anti-choicers use for emotional manipulation. The question is actually abour bodily autonomy. To stick to US law, McFall v. Shemp ruled that nobody can use another's body without their consent, including if they'll die because of this.
@Demon Duck Of Doom
@THX
Control of women's sexuality is the end-game for many. A very large chunk of anti-choicers are anti-abortion, yet are also anti-contraception, despite the fact that the evidence is clear that increased availability of contraception makes abortion rates drop. This stems from the idea, usually religiously motivated, that women are not allowed to have sex unless it's for procreation. Many also adhere to the idea of there being no such thing as 'marital rape', so, not only do women not have the right to have sex for any reason except for having children, they also do not have the right to not have sex if their husband decides sex is what is happening.
What I mean is are pro choicers against puting the babys up for adoption because of some outstanding problems in American orphanages, or do they see it as a more broad issue on whether women can decide to be pregnant or not. Obviously, I would assume it would depend on the person, but what do you guys think is the most ideal approach?
@THX:
RE: Pro-lifer motives: Easy. They're sexist and want to control women.
RE: Adoption: We are pro-adoption if the pregnant person (trans men get pregnant) chooses such. It's a question of choice, hence the name.
@Moose: Asking questions isn't trolling.
Thanks guys. To be honest, I don't really discuss abortion that much, nor do I like to, as I've found that alot of people on both sides can get pretty heated when defending their arguments. Of course women should have the ability to make decisions for themselves, but I also understand that abortion isn't really an easy decision to make. In my opinion, making contraceptives more available would be the best solution.
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