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No if the bible says tatooes are wrong old testament or new then ITS WRONG AND A SIN!!!!!!! The BIBLE DOESN'T CHANGE FOR ANY PERSON!!!! You are blaspheming!! Yes if u have hada tatoo BEFORE you were saved it is forgiven. But if u are obligating to get more you are sinning.you said the bible "implies" slavery is ok. Imply keyword! You more then likely understood it wrong OR the bible doesn't say YES GO GET U A SLAVE AND BEAT HIM. it simply tells the slaves to obey their masters. cause if they dont they will get beaten! Do women not wear head coverings at one point. Does it say all the time? I belive this if u have them repent and do not get more!

†JESUS IS MY OXYGEN†, MySpace 34 Comments [7/2/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Hadanelith

If Jesus is your oxygen, would you kindly stop breathing?

7/2/2006 1:41:16 AM

Talisman

\"No if the bible says tatooes are wrong old testament or new then ITS WRONG AND A SIN!!!!!!! The BIBLE DOESN'T CHANGE FOR ANY PERSON!!!! You are blaspheming!!\"

I agree! Now, no more shellfish for you! Or wearing of mixed fabrics or any of the other myriad of moronic \"laws\", lest you be damned to hell with the rest of us. Oh, wait. Let me guess, those laws don't apply anymore, right? Just the ones you agree with apply today.

7/2/2006 2:08:24 AM

Ed

Is it me, or is he saying two completely different things in the same paragraph?

No if the bible says tatooes are wrong old testament or new then ITS WRONG AND A SIN!!!!!!! The BIBLE DOESN'T CHANGE FOR ANY PERSON!!!!


Translated: What the Bible says is Law.

you said the bible \"implies\" slavery is ok. Imply keyword! You more then likely understood it wrong OR the bible doesn't say YES GO GET U A SLAVE AND BEAT HIM. it simply tells the slaves to obey their masters. cause if they dont they will get beaten! Do women not wear head coverings at one point. Does it say all the time?


Translated: ...Except when it's not.

And then he goes back to the tattoos. What?

7/2/2006 2:33:26 AM

CousinTed

Don't forget the obligation to impregnate your brothers widow.

7/2/2006 2:36:28 AM

Nicole

STOP USING CAPS AND GET OUT OF 2000 BC!

Fucktard.

7/2/2006 3:17:42 AM

Nekhbet

Jesus=O2 are you referring to slaves or tattoos in your last sentence. My mind boggled after sentence four.

7/2/2006 3:32:43 AM

Papabear

\"No if the bible says tatooes are wrong old testament or new then ITS WRONG AND A SIN!!!!!!!\"

So, anything prohibited in the any part of the bible is wrong and a sin? Have you eaten pork or shellfish? Have you cooked or heated your house of the Sabbath? Touched a football? Not killed every Wiccan you've met?


\"The BIBLE DOESN'T CHANGE FOR ANY PERSON!!!! You are blaspheming!! Yes if u have hada tatoo BEFORE you were saved it is forgiven. But if u are obligating to get more you are sinning.\"

I am \"obligating to get more?\" Why should anyone take your advice when you can't express a coherent, cogent thought?


\"you said the bible \"implies\" slavery is ok. Imply keyword! You more then likely understood it wrong OR the bible doesn't say YES GO GET U A SLAVE AND BEAT HIM. it simply tells the slaves to obey their masters. cause if they dont they will get beaten!\"

Implying repeatedly is pretty much the same as stating out right. However, maybe more to the point, the Bible mentions slavery dozens of times, but never, ever, says or even implies that slavery is wrong. You have no moral ground to stand on concerning slavery so just shut the heck up.


\"Do women not wear head coverings at one point. Does it say all the time?\"

So what?


\"I belive this if u have them repent and do not get more!\"

Huh?

7/2/2006 3:36:28 AM

Adrian

^^^
Tattoos, I guess.

On a side note, could Thor, Zeus or any other thunder god smite this slavery-apologist fucktard, or at least his modem and computer?

7/2/2006 4:09:16 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Originally posted by †JESUS IS MY OXYGEN†

Yes if u have hada tatoo BEFORE you were saved it is forgiven.

There's a somewhat sane rational God. I can let this part fly as non-fundie. However...

it simply tells the slaves to obey their masters. cause if they dont they will get beaten!

If that's the case, why the fuck did it not also tell you not to try to breathe water?


If Jesus is your oxygen, does that mean you'll suffocate if he were to be proven as false, with Biblical evidence as well?

7/2/2006 6:39:47 AM

NotMe

†JESUS IS MY OXYGEN†


No wonder he has oxygen deprivation caused brain damage. Can't breath what doesn't exist.

7/2/2006 7:47:49 AM

Ice

Well, those laws were good back then, because they lived in the desert. Now, we don't have to follow them, because we don't live in the desert anymore. Besides, Jesus said, in NT, that we shouldn't follow those laws anymore, because he said \"That which goes into you is not clean or unclean, but which goes out of you can be unclean.\"

Of course, don't you see that, in that passage, Jesus tells us specifically NOT to follow Moses' law?

</fundyism>

7/2/2006 9:23:26 AM

Julian

NotMe beat me to it! Brain damage starts to occur after 3 minutes, not 1975 years. I guess we can pull the plug on this one and zip it!

7/2/2006 10:23:20 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

I daresay the Old Testament opposition to things like tatoos and strange combinations of food stem from nothing more than prevention of infection. Looking at it from an evolutionary standpoint, religions which keep their followers healthy by forbidding potentially infectious practices (pre-medical science, of course) are more likely to survive, expand and propagate.

7/2/2006 6:27:27 PM

matt

you know a heavily tattooed friend of mine believes that the book of leviticus predicts the holocaust. i can see the line of reasoning, but its very inconsistent.

back to the subject at hand, i'm sure this young women leaves the city for a week every 28 days, and goes through a purification ritual before reentering the city and allowing anyone to touch her. i'm sure she never mixes her meat and cheese, and eats only food blessed by a rabbi, in fact, i'll bet she's due to be transfigured any minute now.
edit: sorry i just realized this poster is male. and maybe not old enough to have a period if he were female. but i think the point stands.

7/2/2006 8:54:51 PM

Gerard

I'm probably going to be sorry for asking but..... where does the bible say anything about tatoos?

7/2/2006 9:23:32 PM

matt

in leviticus it mentions that jews should not make cuttings for the dead or mark their bodies. it was a common middle eastern mourning practice to cut your forearms and rub ashes in the wound as a way of mourning those close to you. the only other argument anyone ever comes up with are the scriptures that say your body is the house of the lord. following this logic, there should be no decorations or art hanging in churches or temples. when was the last time you saw that?

7/2/2006 9:58:11 PM

Redhunter

Truly painful to read much less comprehend.

7/3/2006 6:41:17 AM

kmisho

More of Leviticus is required here:

Leviticus 19:19
Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. (uh oh)

7/3/2006 2:38:44 PM

Talisman

Originally posted by Gerard

I'm probably going to be sorry for asking but..... where does the bible say anything about tatoos?

Leviticus 19:28

\"Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.\"

7/3/2006 2:45:19 PM

honestchristian

Wow, this is one of the most legalistic christians I have seen in awhile.

7/3/2006 3:32:35 PM

matt

the tattoo word is a much more recent addition. the word is polynesian in origin, and seeing as early christians (really, up to explorations by men like captain cook) didn't even know about polynesians, they couldn't have possibly
known the word \"tattoo\"

7/3/2006 8:22:00 PM

Julian

The King James doesn't mention 'tattoos', that's a NAS perversion, but the practice was the same thing, and both were banned.

Cicatrization.


King James (with Strong's grammar)

Youngs Literal

7/4/2006 12:01:11 AM

Your argument is full of holes.

First, let's start with slavery. The example you gave proves Jesus didn't have a problem with slavery, if he said slaves obey your masters, he was condoning slavery. What you should have said was, \"the bible says, 'In Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female.'\" That, my friend is the doctrine of racial, socioeconomic, and gender equality. Second, you seem to be a legalist stuck in the Old Testament laws. You know, if you obey one Old Testament law, you have to obey all of them, so you better stop eating cheeseburgers, because you can't eat dairy and beef. You also can't wear mixed fibers, so throw out all of your linen/cotten shirts and pants. Christ came to fufill the law. He replaced Old Testament law with himself. All things are permissible (but not profitable) and there are only two New Testament laws, 1. To love the LORD your God with all of your heart, soul and strength, and 2. To love your neighbor as yourself. This person is tatooing himself to establish identity in the community he feels called to witness to. Paul said he is like a Roman to Romans. You must establish identity if you are to be an effective witness because as you proved, humans are xenophobic.

7/4/2006 12:33:27 AM

MK

What a beautiful and unadulterated example of pure MySpace gibberish. I'm so glad, I feel so privileged to have been witness to this posting.

7/5/2006 1:44:51 PM

JRyan

This is what happens when you use the Bible as proof of anything. Also, I could justify opposing positions using the Bible-it can fit almost any position.

7/13/2006 11:54:56 PM
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