["It is a big universe to have once been in something smaller than the eye could see, as bangers claim. How do we arrive at that strange place?"]
The only explaination is by a miracle. Things like that just do not happen in the natural world.
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So an all powerful, fully sentient, physics defying being came into existence out of nothingness and made all that we know today in the last 6,000ish years? Hmm. Not that we can ever comprehend the existence of the universe as it's very existence defies our current way of viewing that which is around us, but how is it that such makes more sense than the current scientific theory? Besides the fact that you can avoid learning the very difficult scientific concepts that lead to such a conclusion and instead just say that a being snapped it all into existence, I really just don't understand how you people can then ignore how something even more complex than the universe that you were trying to explain can exist in and of itself. It's like answering a question with a question and then refusing to try to answer your second question or care if anybody tries:
Child: Why is the sky blue?
Fundie parent: Why don't you ask the Angels when you die?
Oh and btw. Of course it doesn't happen in the natural WORLD. Our world is a very small part of the universe which is not capable of a fraction of the things that happen out there. We only recently begun to fully see the universe that exists out there and we have a lot of work to do to begin to understand what's out there. It took thousands of years for our species just to gain it's current level of understanding of the natural world and we still don't fully understand every little thing that happens on it. So, we're certainly not going to begin looking into the vastness of space and have instant and simplistic questions for the many wonders out there. However, we do have a decent understanding of that which is clearly visible to us, but you have to train yourself to understand how something so foreign works. If you never saw a bird before in your life would you believe someone if they told you there were animals that could fly across the sky? Probably not. You would have to read books showing you them and teaching you the principles of how they do it. Then you would have to go out in the world and look at them for yourself. However, if you refuse to leave the sheltered little life you have lived for all this time and not learn about birds, then at least don't go to the town hall every day and argue with people who haven't locked themselves away in ignorance all their lives.
ME: Hey JohnR7, how come the light goes off in my refrigerator when I close the door?
JOHN: The only explaination is by miracle.
ME: Oh, wait. There is a little switch that gets pressed in when the door is shut, it wasn't a miracle.
JOHN: That switch was made by god. Things like that just do not happen in the natural world.
ME: I think it was installed at the fridge factory.
JOHN: Nuh-uh. Did you see them put the switch in?
ME: Well, no, of course...
JOHN: MIRACLE. THis discussion is over.
You're right once again JohnR7, that's twice in a week and both times you didn't have a clue what you were saying!
Last time I checked the universe did not occur in the Natural World, no. That would be a miracle.
Now unfortunately the world occurs in the Natural Universe. Please try to understand. Just this once! Please!
The first sentence is a lie; HIS explanation is actually a fairly unassailable one, for a change, but it is equally unprovable -- and like it or not, other explanations DO exist, and they do a much more thorough job of explaining things.
The second sentence is just abysmally stupid, considering that "the natural world" (by which I assume he metaphorically means "the universe") is ALL WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, so for him to say that "things like that just do not happen in the natural world" is as silly as to claim that stars do not exist.
~David D.G.
"Because, everything in the universe was compressed down to a point more dense than your head, if it is possible to be any denser."
And if it is indeed not possible I suggest trying to keep JohnR7 cool and calm...
Hey wait! That's awesome !
I'll take being a "Banger" over being a "Bagger" any day.
Ha!
(Oh, did JohnAre7 post some drivel? ... missed that -snicker=)
(fixed a typo ... sigh)
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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