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[Response to a poster who asked why he should believe Hell exists]

If you don't believe it ("faith"), you will not be forgiven of divine punishment ("justification"), and God shall punish you forever, with absolutely no intention of correcting you ("divine wrath").

Quick, Christian Forums 25 Comments [7/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed
WTF?! || meh
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Incubusion

Okay. So, at what point do you get to the proof?

7/19/2006 4:54:29 AM

Napoleon the Clown

God's such a sweetheart...

7/19/2006 5:07:24 AM

Papabear

One cannot be compelled to believe something. People believe all sorts of ridiculous things, but no sincere belief is attained by way of threats.

7/19/2006 6:11:39 AM

Redhunter

GOD: \"You're gonna love me and like it, see?\" (shaking fist in a threatening manner) \"and if you don't.....\"

7/19/2006 6:57:53 AM

Julian

idiot!

7/19/2006 8:00:28 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Punishment without correction. Great idea. They used to do that in prisons until very recently - what you got out the other end was not reformed citizens, but just the same criminals, with more muscles from breaking all those rocks.

7/19/2006 10:57:36 AM

Coffee

Way not to answer the question.

7/19/2006 12:11:52 PM

Hadanelith

So might makes right? Fuckwit.

7/19/2006 1:00:33 PM

David D.G.

Belief by coercion is at best feigned and at worst brainwashing. Neither constitutes coming to a particular genuinely held viewpoint by free will.


~David D.G.

7/19/2006 2:09:47 PM

Berny

Another fails to understand what is meant by \"burden of proof\".
Meh...

7/19/2006 3:31:01 PM

TDR

the \"if you don't...\" argument is best used by parents making their children clean messy bedrooms.

in the mouth of a divine entity it seems a little... petty.

7/19/2006 6:25:53 PM

Star Cluster

Wouldn't we all be shocked and dismayed if just once, a fundie admitted there is no proof of any of this crap outside the Babble?

7/20/2006 3:13:15 AM

glyptodon

Nono, like, reasons.

7/20/2006 3:29:48 AM

CousinTed

So God's an asshole...Why do we want to worship him again?

7/20/2006 4:30:34 AM

The Devil Himself

The road to Hell is paved with assholes like you.

3/8/2007 12:31:45 PM

cyborgtroy

Wrath is a deadly sin, isn't it?

11/14/2007 12:31:53 PM

cyborgtroy

A mystical father figure shaking a finger at you from thousands of years in the past, saying 'do it and f***ing spank you!'

Loki, Dogma

11/14/2007 12:32:53 PM

GigaGuess

So then, if you are, as a spirit, sentient and capable of the same pain and free thought, why can't you look at God at the pearly gates and go "Shit. Sorry man. I guess I was wrong." If you can pull a death-bed repentance, why not one as a spirit? Why can Jesus not save you after the fact? I mean it seems rather callous to just throw people into the furnace because they don't read the evidence (or lack thereof) the right way.

11/14/2007 1:03:33 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

We mean without circular reasoning.

12/31/2007 10:38:20 PM



BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!

12/31/2007 11:35:08 PM

Godbuster

What? That doesn't answer the question at all? You're just regurgitating more nonsense! Speak English dammit!!!

7/23/2010 9:48:30 AM

M

*laughs* If that's God's reasoning, we humans have a far better criminal justice system. We're also far more merciful. I'd say that makes humanity, y'know, *better* than your disgusting excuse for a monotheistic deity.

Thank my God and his lesser deities and angels that I don't believe in yours.

5/27/2011 7:24:04 PM

Justanotheratheist

Just because you believe all that shit doesn't amount to a shred of evidence.

5/27/2011 10:03:20 PM

Swede

Why should we believe in such an angry and petty god?

5/27/2011 11:38:05 PM

Anon2

Textbook example of "Argumentum ad baculum":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_baculum

5/28/2011 12:42:45 AM
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