This isn't about names. This is about Pronouns.
And people aren't entitled to punish those that don't speak the way they wish.
For God created Man and made Woman out of the rib of man. There was no third gender. He made them male and female.
So, I either call them by the way God created them. The only other possible name for them if they refuse to accept reality it IT.
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Two can play at this.
What bwgirl fails to understand, in his treatment of the subject, is (a) this is a very simple matter of respect, an act that wouldn't hurt Mr. OP in any way; and (b) this is a fucking stupid hill for him and his sex-obsessed comrades to die on.
I have two suggestion for this confused young fellow:
* If it isn't hurting anyone, it's not your business.
* If you were a Christian, with all that entails, no one would ever have to guess what you are: They'd know merely by the fruit you bear. (And the OP bears small, sour fruit.)
If bwgirl can't show respect on a very simple matter that is not hurting him, then he shouldn't expect fair treatment for his own preferences - in pronoun-choice or in religious belief.
And people aren't entitled to punish those that don't speak the way they wish
You know the only possible way you'll be entitled to think the way you do: start paying taxes.
The IRS will come a-calling for such: backdated ; in your case, untold trillions .
Hey, as you lot consider we Atheists to be a 'religion', we are more than entitled to push our agenda: your perception that you're being forced to accept anyone not exactly like you, call it Sauce for the Goose.
The only way you can prevent our 'agenda' is to not think the way you do. Not seeing the Quakers & Unitarian Universalists not being similarly 'Persecuted'.
Kim Il-Davis. Can you say 'Legal Precedent', fundies...?! We've already won. >:D
Transgender people? I imagine most of them have a proper name. Use it. But deliberately using the wrong pronoun is hostility that they don't deserve. I'm willing to cut a little bit of slack for people who have known someone of one gender many years before the transition: that's just a goof. But I suspect you are in the "hostile" camp, which makes you an evil bitch.
That's alright, honey, we'll start referring to you as "it", like an animal. See how it enjoys that. . .
@Kanna
Transgender people? I imagine most of them have a proper name. Use it.
I suspect "bwgirl" would be one of those people who just INSISTS on calling trans people by their birth name, however. Which kinda seemed stupid to me, if only because there are both A) people who (while not trans) change their name after birth, and B) people who are male but have female-sounding names or vice versa.
"For God created Man and made Woman out of the rib of man. There was no third gender. He made them male and female."
St. Augustine of all people knew that intersex people existed and that there WAS, therefore, a third gender. Jesus also alluded to it when he mentioned "eunuchs from birth" (back then, the term eunuch implied a level of androgyny because it was believed a castrated man was no longer fully male).
So bwgirl's understanding of biology is over 20 centuries behind the times.
Part of the reason why the ancients didn't have as much of a problem with the existence of intersex people as bwgirl et al., do, is because early medicine subscribed to the one-sex theory, not the two-sex theory which didn't arise until much later.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-sex_and_two-sex_theories
People are entitled to punish those that disrespect them; if you constantly use the wrong pronoun, they will not want to be around you, and neither will their friends.
So, Man is kinda lopsided, has one less rib on one side?
What about those who are born with no discernible genitals, or with both sets of genitals? What about XY's who are born with female genitals? What about XXY's?
A lot of transgender people prefer IT over the wrong gender pronoun.
So, you are going to talk about this person as "he"...
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...and this person as "she"? I'd suggest you get ready to run after you've done that, "she" looks like "she" means business.
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Trannies hateth the Word of the Lord! I will keep on calling Bruce Jenner Bruce Jenner and Bradley Manning Bradley Manning! I don't care what these depraved and wicked individuals think, because they're reprobate. They're both men because they have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome and no amount of surgery could change that. It's funny how liberals love junk science like Darwinism and hate real science like this.
One thing I wonder, though....how often do people like bwgirl have this issue come up, anyway? I mean, I'm okay with calling trans people what they want to be called...but, well, at this present moment, I don't know any of them to call them anything. Yeah, someone can talk about "Bruce Jenner" (or more properly, Kaitlyn) and so forth, but well, the only time I even think about her is when people are having a conversation about this kind of thing. If this argument never came up, I would never worry about what to call her, because I honestly don't give enough of a damn about her in any other way.
Basically, I'd ask bwgirl "Why does this matter to you anyway? Do you even encounter known trans people at all?"
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