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oooh thats right, i totally forgot that the big bang actually is
feasible (sarcasm)...what, with the whole idea that this universe
somehow "exploded" from a molecular sized piece of rock...

firstly it defies all logic, the tool you athiests like to use alot,
which more or less throws the whole big bang theory out the window.

so tell me...if the universe in its entirety came from such a small
thing, where did the rock come from? exactly...

so check the hole before you stick you schlong in it...n00bs.

miller, Atheism vs Christianity 32 Comments [7/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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#55065
Kyle

Everyone join me for a round of \"If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the hell up!\"

7/22/2006 2:25:21 AM
#55086
Napoleon the Clown

Where'd God come from? If we need to explain to the very begining where the universe came from, you have to too. And saying \"God always was\" isn't going to cut it, as it just so happens that doesn't say where God began. Where'd God begin?

7/22/2006 3:00:20 AM
#55090
Sandman

Napoleon, they don’t have to explain where God came from. That’s the essential aspect of religious doctrine that renders it absolutely immune to logic, reason, or rhetoric. If it requires no evidence, then how can you disprove that evidence? Dogmatic faith is the perfect armor, making the believer a rock that can not be moved.

7/22/2006 3:06:29 AM
#55091
CousinTed

Dude, it wasn't \"Made of rock\", it was made of everything contained within the universe.

7/22/2006 3:06:46 AM
#55100
Rysith

If you took the time to learn a bit about the big bang theory, rather than just attacking it, you might learn that physics has explicitly said that it cannot make any predictions about what happened before the big bang happened, because there is no observable evidence, and so it's not even going to try. Where the singularity that became the universe came from is not a question for science, and nobody knowledgeable has ever claimed that it was.

7/22/2006 3:23:35 AM
#55101
Nicole

Please, to prevent spreading your stupidity, don't stick your schlong in anything unless it's an electric socket.

Go read a book about it.

7/22/2006 3:23:44 AM
#55114
Hadanelith

THE SONG (rides again!):

If you don't know what you're talking 'bout, shut up!
If you don't know what you're talking 'bout, shut up!
If you don't know what you're talking 'bout, and you really want to shout it out,
If you don't know what you're talking 'bout, SHUT UP!

7/22/2006 3:41:46 AM
#55115
Sierra

Thanks for that nice little turd of misogyny at the end. That's really an image I did not need.

I think I'lll go bleach my eyes.

7/22/2006 3:48:46 AM
#55120
Napoleon the Clown

Originally posted by Sandman

Napoleon, they don’t have to explain where God came from. That’s the essential aspect of religious doctrine that renders it absolutely immune to logic, reason, or rhetoric. If it requires no evidence, then how can you disprove that evidence? Dogmatic faith is the perfect armor, making the believer a rock that can not be moved.

Well, I guess I'll just be using the excuse that the energy and matte always existed then. *Shrugs*

7/22/2006 4:29:38 AM
#55126
themann1086

Modified Proof 11 for God:

# ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, aka ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If [the big bang] is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) [The big bang] can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists

Tada!

7/22/2006 4:54:17 AM
#55127
Zadic

If you don't like the explanation, go to school, study it, get your Phd, and prove it wrong. That's what science is. We do not claim to know everything, but we do promise to keep searching by using testable, logical, and observable means.

7/22/2006 4:55:10 AM
#55130
Bob_Zimmerman

Napoleon - That's the beauty of it! Some theories state that time as we know it didn't exist until the big bang occurred, so there literally has been matter and energy for all of time.

And not only does physics not have any meaningful models of what happened before the big bang, but it doesn't even describe what happened until about 1E-33 seconds afterwards. There is plenty of room for God in there if people insist on adding arbitrary complexity like that.

7/22/2006 4:57:47 AM
#55139
Amigone201

I'm sorry, I may not be up on my modern fundie, but isn't it considered vulgar, and thus sinful, to say things like \"Check the hole before you stick you[r] schlong in it\"?

7/22/2006 5:34:06 AM
#55150
Papabear

Of course, your creation story requires such logical events as:

A. the existence of \"God,\"
B. the idea that \"God\" always existed, never was created
C. the idea that \"God\" created to entire universe in six day out of nothing at all.


Before we talk about what I stick my schlong in, you must stop being such a hole.

7/22/2006 6:27:48 AM
#55156
NotMe

what, with the whole idea that this universe
somehow \"exploded\" from a molecular sized piece of rock.


Your description is wrong, but I'll humor you. If you don't like everything coming from a molecular sized piece of rock, how can you be comfortable with god making everything out of nothing?

The humoring ends here.

if the universe in its entirety came from such a small
thing, where did the rock come from?


The rock probably came from the same place as your god. Someone heard about something and pulled some stories out of his ass to make it fit in his world view.

7/22/2006 6:56:12 AM
#55158
Swordsman

In Genesis, water already existed before the world was created. Nobody bothered to ask where did water come from.

7/22/2006 7:25:59 AM
#55159
NonHomogenized

oooh thats right, i totally forgot that the big bang actually is
feasible (sarcasm)


Your ignorance of the feasibility of the big bang has no impact on whether or not it occurred (and, in the sense that physicists mean when they talk about it, it most certainly did).

...what, with the whole idea that this universe somehow \"exploded\" from a molecular sized piece of rock...


Well, by putting exploded in quotes, you showed that you aren't a complete tool. I guess that just makes you an incomplete tool, though. Especially since the universe did not expand from a
\"molecular sized piece of rock\". It expanded from something smaller than the smallest hypothesized subatomic particle, which was, most certainly, not made of matter (it would be quite some time before the universe would cool down enough for even the smallest pieces of matter to form).

firstly it defies all logic,


No. It defies your idea of how the world should work. I'm willing to bet that quantum mechanics is at least as counter-intuitive to you as big bang cosmology, but you probably accept that it is at least partially right.

the tool you athiests like to use alot,


I usually don't nitpick spelling, but it's atheists. And, to remind you, you're the tool here.

which more or less throws the whole big bang theory out the window.


Except that it doesn't, because you have yet to make a valid point against it. In fact, I'm willing to bet a decently large sum of money that you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, as you don't understand big bang cosmology at all, let alone well enough to critique it.

so tell me...if the universe in its entirety came from such a small
thing, where did the rock come from?


I realize that your head is full of them, but you've really got to get over this obsession with referring to things you don't personally understand as \"rocks\".

so check the hole before you stick you schlong in it...n00bs.


Buddy, you better hope there's no people here with anal fetishes, because you're a hole, and all that comes out of you is shit and a noxious wind.

Then again, I'll bet that, even if there are, they know to avoid something so obviously diseased.

7/22/2006 8:52:27 AM
#55173
Hadanelith

NonHomogenized: less than 1 second is \"quite some time\"? As I remember, the first quarks were formed less than a second after T0. Of course, they didn't last long, but they did form.

7/22/2006 11:28:41 AM
#55176
ProperJob

Urgh...there's nothing worse than someone who boasts that he's won after talking absolute crap about something he knows nothing about.

7/22/2006 12:03:46 PM
#55218
whitewater55

Dumbass mysoginist award??

7/22/2006 4:26:35 PM
#55247
TDR

again, this had better be an eleven year old. No one who's been to high school can be this stupid.

7/22/2006 6:53:23 PM
#55255
NonHomogenized

\"NonHomogenized: less than 1 second is \"quite some time\"? As I remember, the first quarks were formed less than a second after T0. Of course, they didn't last long, but they did form.\"

Fair enough. I was thinking of any matter larger than quarks and gluons, but I mistyped what I intended to convey.

7/22/2006 7:25:47 PM
#55704
Redhunter

Hohm skuleng duzint werk peephole!

7/24/2006 7:32:48 AM
#55713
Maronan

firstly it defies all logic, the tool you athiests like to use alot


Well, at least he admits that logic is completely foreign to him.

7/24/2006 7:55:25 AM
#55868
kkkron

'Hohm skuleng duzint werk peephole! '

Oh my God I just realised that's actually English.

7/24/2006 7:01:10 PM
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