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Now, there is a philosophy of Law that asserts that extremely harsh punishments enforce themselves. For instance, every where in the World now car theft is treated as almost a slight misdemeanor, and everywhere in the World now car theft and stolen car parts are huge illicit industries. But what if you were to specify the most elaborate and torturous deaths for anyone convicted of car theft? You wouldn't need any police. No one would dare steal a car. Like in Malaysia, when they made Drug Trafficking a capital crime, they cut their drug enforcement departments in half, because they knew drug traffickers would avoid Malaysia. In short. If a society wishes to discourage certain behaviors, publishing an extremely stern punishment is a tried and true method of deterrence.

Leo Volont, Atheist Network Message Board 10 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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WTF?! || meh


Well what if an innocent person is wrongly killed? u twat

5/20/2008 8:48:22 AM


I devised an analogy to better understand what leo is talking about...
Joe lives in Orangejuiceland
One day, he trips and hits his head on a car
In Orangejuiceland, vandalism is a crime worthy of the greatest punishment, so the next day, Joe is hung
At least his head isn't hurting anymore!

2/7/2012 7:52:50 PM

rubber chicken

Back in the days of public executions, people used to have their pockets picked while watching the hanging of pickpockets. Your premise is flawed. All but the mentally ill commit crimes with the expectation of getting away with it.

2/7/2012 8:09:58 PM


Harsher penalties do not make miscreants behave. They just make them sneakier.

2/7/2012 8:47:57 PM


Singapore has one of the highest rates of capital punishment anywhere in the World, but people who live there still commit the crimes for which capital punishment is applicable. Punishments don't deter everyone. They do make people more determined to cover their tracks, however, as Dr. Shrinker observes.

2/8/2012 8:30:34 AM


Yes. It will make car theft convictions go down.

But only cause Car Thieves will kill all the witnesses.

After all it's not like murder will make their punishment worse. In fact statistically it'll make their situation better by reducing the chance of them getting caught.

2/8/2012 9:48:23 AM


So you want the death penalty to be applied to even slight misdemeanors? Be careful what you wish for, Leo. Someone might frame you for littering.

2/8/2012 12:04:47 PM


A car is not worth a life. And if you get the verdict wrong, you can't bring back the dead. That's why I strongly oppose capital punishment for anything.

2/8/2012 12:58:14 PM

Think about it when they steal your mega expensive iphone.

1/4/2015 5:48:23 AM


In some parts of the world, being raped carries a death sentence for women. But, strangely enough, women are still being raped there. Stupid women! [/sarcasm]

So, the drug industry moved to other countries, which then had to increase their drug enforcement departments significantly? Where's the gain in that?

If your idea had any merit, countries with the death penalty for murder ought to have fewer murders than countries that don't have the death penalty. Strangely enough, it seems it's the other way around.

1/4/2015 8:55:37 AM