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It strikes me you don't give a darn about the rule of law, Winston Jen. You celebrate "underground" euthanasia and people defying the law.

If society, in its democratic wisdom, doesn't legalize assisted suicide, that law should be respected and obeyed. When it is violated, it should be enforced. Or, do you believe in underground bank robbery, too?

Wesley J Smith, Secondhand Smoke Blog 28 Comments [8/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Napoleon the Clown

So if a law were made banning people from praying you'd respect that law?

8/2/2006 2:06:17 AM

Jacob Syne

So laws are never unjust?


Btw, screw banks. Sadly, robbery doesn't solve a lot.

8/2/2006 2:10:38 AM

Star Cluster

No they wouldn't, NtC. Or else they wouldn't constantly complain about not being able to display the Ten Commandments on every public building in the US.

8/2/2006 2:11:34 AM

Papabear

Does he feel that way about a woman's legal right to an abortion?

8/2/2006 2:13:07 AM

Nostromo

Underground bank robbery is good. Lots of great heist movies have been made about undergroung bank robbery.

8/2/2006 2:13:18 AM

themann1086

This is almost not-fundy if it weren't for the context; democratic protest against laws deemed unjust [see: civil rights movement] are part of our nation's history. That can be and often is abused by those seeking to repeal just laws, but such is the price of democracy: constant debate.

8/2/2006 2:56:03 AM

Hadanelith

What Papabear said.

8/2/2006 4:13:24 AM

Crosis

<<< If society, in its democratic wisdom, doesn't legalize assisted suicide, that law should be respected and obeyed. >>>

An unjust law should not be obeyed just because it is the law.

<<< Or, do you believe in underground bank robbery, too? >>>

Bank robbery is a crime because it tramples the rights of others. Euthanasia does not. The analogy, as usual, fails.

8/2/2006 4:16:47 AM

Winston Jen

Peaceful protests HAVE NOT WORKED in Australia for over two decades.

I know this would probably come off as \"Fundie\", but...

If I become a quadraplegic, I'll consider biting Wesley's throat out. ;)

If I become terminally ill, I'll consider committing suicide by cop and taking out 1000 pro-lifers. After all, DEAD PEOPLE CANNOT VOTE.

8/2/2006 6:06:44 AM

Angel Kaida

Winston Jen? I love you.

8/2/2006 6:16:11 AM

Winston Jen

Thanks, Angel.

Also, a group of people with Motor Neurone Disease in Australia have decided to break the law by helping each other die. The ones who can still move their arms will help those who cannot.

Background info on one of the worst conditions in the world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MND

8/2/2006 6:26:38 AM

NotMe

To repeat my age old mantra:

You can do whatever you darn well please as long as you do not impede on the rights of others while doing so.

8/2/2006 6:39:21 AM

Winston Jen

Good point, NotMe, but if pro-lifers won't respect the rights of the terminally ill, why should the terminally ill respect the rights of the pro-lifers?

Turnabout is fair play. The Religious Right believes in the death penalty and \"an eye for an eye\", so they'd be hypocrites to oppose voluntary euthanasia.

8/2/2006 7:04:20 AM

Julian

Underground bank robbery hey? No we leave tax fraud for fuckwits like Mr Dino.

8/2/2006 7:33:15 AM

Winston Jen

Exactly, Julian. \"Underground bank robbery\" does not exist, because everyone nearby knows when a bank is robbed.

8/2/2006 7:35:19 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Originally posted by Winston Jen

The Religious Right believes in the death penalty and \"an eye for an eye\", so they'd be hypocrites to oppose voluntary euthanasia.

No, killing someone is only acceptable if they have done something \"wrong.\"

8/2/2006 7:47:02 AM

Winston Jen

Something wrong... like talking back to your parents?

Oh, yeah, that's a really good moral system (not).

8/2/2006 7:48:58 AM

McCulloch

It strikes me you don't give a darn about the rule of law, Sojourner Truth. You celebrate \"underground\" railway and people defying the law.

If society, in its democratic wisdom, legalizes slavery, that law should be respected and obeyed. When it is violated, it should be enforced.

8/2/2006 1:58:50 PM

Winston Jen

I'd just like to see Wesley come up with a response to this:

\"If you were in the WTC on 9/11, would you try and stop people jumping out of the windows? If so, why? If not, then aren't you admitting that suicide is rational under certain circumstances?\"

8/2/2006 2:10:15 PM

Dr. Major

You'll live or i'll kill you!

8/2/2006 2:27:00 PM

Winston Jen

If only they were that compassionate, Dr. Major!

Dr. Death is better than Dr. Pain!

8/2/2006 2:38:38 PM

TDR

wow, W.J. You don't give a \"darn\" aparently. That's some pretty strong language he's aiming at your head. I'd be shivering.

8/2/2006 3:12:14 PM

Winston Jen

Heh. Even if I did commit mercy-killing, the sentence would be a suspended one at worst.

8/2/2006 3:16:50 PM

Lord Zeruel

Well banks are government condoned institutions of usery so god knows I'd be grinning ear to ear to see them get what they so dearly deserve, but simple robbery is too uncreative for my taste.

8/3/2006 8:19:05 AM

tracer

Also, a group of people with Motor Neurone Disease in Australia have decided to break the law by helping each other die. The ones who can still move their arms will help those who cannot.

Background info on one of the worst conditions in the world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MND

Motor-Neuro Disorder is much sexier in America. Here, we call it \"Lou Gehrig's Disease\". (Or, sometimes, \"What that wheelchair black hole guy has\".)

8/3/2006 11:38:15 PM
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