[If you want to go back before the founding fathers, why not go back to the first human inhabitants ?]
No --- that's called Squatter's Rights, and SR do not override God's plans for who settles where.
Look at it this way:
What do you think of when you think of the land of Israel?
Should that land belong to the Jebusites, Amorites, Hivites, Hittites, etc.? No. God gave it to Abraham and his descendants forever.
Same for America. God created this real estate we live on, and when He sends people to live there and the squatters refuse to relinquish their land, then it becomes an issue between the squatters and God, not the squatters and the settlers.
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Someone squatted on AV's head, because, he is, as the french say, a real "tete de merde".
No, Hadanelith, that does not make him a genocidal motherfucker. The Babble had already done that quite well, thank you.
You really are an amazingly stupid piece of work.
When I think of the land of Israel, I think of a region that has been totally screwed up by the Abrahamic religions. I think of the Bible story made up by "God's chosen people" to justify both their occupation of that crappy patch of land and the slaughter of the peoples who occupied it before them.
By your idiot "thinking," the whole earth was created by "God," therefore, any group claiming any land on earth in the name of "God" is entitled to it regardless of who maybe there already.
Where do you come off calling Native Americans "Squatters"? What makes you think U.S. citizens are so very fucking special, AV1611VET? Hey, maybe Hispanics are God's Real Chosen People, and he's moving them north into his special country. Maybe we're the squatters, fundie boy.
I'm sorry, which chapter of the Bible is the Covenant between God and America in, again?
The gospel according to Shithead.
<<< No --- that's called Squatter's Rights, and SR do not override God's plans for who settles where. >>>
What if it was God's plan for them to be there in the first place, and we fucked that up?
<<< What do you think of when you think of the land of Israel? >>>
The biggest headache in the world. Because as long as two different religions claim it as holy land, it's going to be an ugly mess forever.
To my mind, the God of Israel is a weak, puny, useless God. If he had any real strength he'd evict anyone but his Chosen People from their Land, and he'd manage to keep them out.
It's been said by many others before, the winners of any conflict will write the history of the war. It's no surprise the Old Testament reads the way it does, having been written by the early Israelites.
Now if it had been written by the Egyptians...
Ah, AV1611VET, what brings you here? Oh, I see; you claimed that illegal immigrants should leave, and someone pointed out that everyone is an "illegal immigrant" except Native Americans. You want to have white people exempted from the rule. Sorry, I can't do that. You'll have to see Special Pleading, in room 103.
THAT! from the fuckwit that says the King James Bible (not even the American versions like the NIV and NAS etc) is infallible.
Where the FUCK does your KJV say America was the promised land given to you by God?
You really should go read Exodus and Deuteronomy and Joshua and Judges a lot more closely. It was always an issue between the settlers [invading force] and squatters [peaceful inhabitants]. 'God' had nothing to do with it - hence why 'he' wasn't doing any evicting or smiting. It was a pack of shit made up by some power hungry priests.
Sure they promised 'God' would help, but 'he' never did. Look at the Jebusites for instance.
Exodus 23:23
For My angel will go before you and bring you in to the land of the Amorites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites; and I will completely destroy them.
Joshua 15:63
Now as for the Jebusites, the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the sons of Judah could not drive them out; so the Jebusites live with the sons of Judah at Jerusalem until this day.
Big motherfucking empty promises. I'm too lazy to go get the verses of where the people didn't want to annihilate the inhabitants and 'God' threatened to torture, blind and then kill anyone who didn't comply and commit genocide.
And here's soemthing I posted earlier today on God renegging on his promise against the Canaanites - in fact the Canaanites royally kicked his ass.
http://www.fstdt.com/comments.asp?id=14175
And you know where things get really interesting? The much maligned Samaritans were a fantastic tribe to the North with huge cities. The Judeans were a pack of starving hillbillies eeking out a meagre existence in the Southern Hills, and only there because they had no value and no one could be bothered exterminating them like the pitiful rats they were. Mind you they wrote this book that said they were a great and mighty civilisation and the people to the North were pitiful and subhuman. Well the great cites to the North got rolled by the Assyrians - and again, the Assyrians couldn't be assed picking on the hillbillies. your bible is a pack of lies. They're not even convincing ones.
And yet the english settlers still felt the need to start the first fucking holocaust to get rid of the natives.
Personally, AV, you make me sick .
Burn in Quiorna , you fuckwit cocksucker.
I get that American fundies think they live in 'god's country', even though I think it's quite a stupid idea. But what is this they keep on about having shit against Native Americans? Fuck you all to hell, that's what I say.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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