95% of English is derived from Hebrew, not "latin" as the pope claims, not the "romantic languages" as the Spaniards claim, and not Greek as some scholars claim. The reason for the similarity between English and German [and I speak perfect German and thus know the similarity] is that most of German also is derived from Hebrew (and obviously NOT "latin", the "romantic languages", nor Greek).
Germans are the direct descendants of the Tribe and House of Judah, and, because our Founding Fathers knew all these links between these languages, the US was one vote away from making German and not English the official language of the US.
You simply scan't get any closer to the actual name of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob than that. You can believe the jew LIES all you want, but we don't have to and won't. Scripture says that the name for God went thru a number of changes, with Israelites even referring to Him as "baal" at one time. God straightened them out and no longer do Israelites refer to God as "baal". The PAGAN name for Jesus is "yeshu" which is a Yiddish [not Hebrew, because jews speak yiddish, not Hebrew] acronym for "may His name be wiped from memory forever". This little bit about the tetragramatron is yet another jew LIE which you need to ignore.
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Um... English is based in Lower German, and had a lot of Latin thrown in when the Romans settled in England. I took Latin class in high school, and every vocabulary list came with English words that were derived from the Latin, and pretty much every single Latin word had some English derivation.
And... why would German even be considered as the official language of the US when EVERYONE spoke English and ALL the Founding Fathers' documents were also written ONLY in English?
What world do you live in? English (and German, and Italian, and Spanish, for that matter) is based on Latin. Now, English is so far from Latin that we don't really bear any direct relation to it, But much of uor word structure is derived from Latin, and the etymologies of many words derive from Latin bases. Have you ever listened to spoken Hebrew? Does it make any sense? Are there large numbers of words that can be etymologically linked to English? No. English is not derived from Hebrew, nor is German.
Your second paragraph is so much bullshit. Germany can make no more claim to descent from judah than France or Spain can. Further, there was never any vote to possibly make German the official language of the United States, because we don't have an official language. Fucktard.
Side note: your bracketed note is fucktarded nonsense. Yiddish is European Hebrew. Hebrew is the national language of Israel, and as such, it is spoken by a good many Jews.
I would point out your further failures, but I'm tired now.
Boy, you start out patently wrong and stay that way all the way through your rant.
English gets about half it's words from Latin roots and about half from Germanic roots, with small amounts adopted from almost every other major language group in the world.
You recognize that there are differences between Yiddish and Hebrew, but you obviously have no idea what thopse differences are.
Your whole post is a "LIE which you need to ignore."
The syntax and lower semantics of English come from German, and most of the words come from Old French, which was rooted very deeply in Latin.
Yeshua (written today as 'Joshua') was likely the given name of the guy we call Jesus. It was translated to the Greeks as Ioesus, the Greek form, and later 'Romanized' to Jesus. The name 'Yeshua' means "God is Salvation" in Hebrew; a rather fitting name for a Messiah.
And for the record, the Jews of Jesus's day spoke Aramaic.
OK, everything in that post was wrong. English is a German language, and nearly all the words we use everyday have Germanic roots. (In that last sentence only German, Germanic and language were not of Germanic origin). Many other words are derived from French (mainly via the Norman occupation) which was itself a descendant of Latin. Other words (mainly of a relgious and scientific nature) derive directly from Latin. Greek words in English are almost all of a scientific bent. The rest of the vocabulary is borrowed from every language on earth, on account of how we Brits used to own most of it. English, German, Greek, French and Latin are all Indo-European languages, related back to a common, prehistoric, ancestor. Hebrew is a Semitic language (as are Arabic and Aramaic) related only very distantly if at all. Yiddish is Low German with a lot of Hebrew vocabulary. Only Ashkenazi Jews, who lived in Germany at one time, have ever spoken Yiddish. The official language shit is, as has been pointed out, a myth. The Pope does not claim English is descended from Latin (as a German, he knows better) and no scholar on Earth thinks is descended from Greek. Spaniards say nothing of the sort. The reason for the similarity between English and German is that they both derive from a common ancestor; English was brought to Britain by German invaders in the 5th C. AD. Hebrew is as unlike English and German as it is possible to be. Yeshu is Aramaic, not Yiddish - Aramaic was the common language in Palestine 2,000 years ago. I think that covers it.
The really tragic thing is, there's actually sites out there which do show the original transliterals (i.e. Hebrew in the English alphabet) for Hebrew. And there's actually sites out there which trace the etymology of words back to their origins - in this case, usually Latin or Greek. Jumping from Greek to Hebrew is just fucking insane though, and this clown would know that if he'd ever read the Greek Septaguint, the languages do not compare with their syntax, alphabet or phonetics, let alone their fucking words!
What a white supremacist, revisionist, make-believe cunt!
Sigh, so much crap, so little time.
First, English is not derived from Hebrew, but from Old German. And German is NOT derived from Hebrew. I am a professor of English (who happens to hold a degree from a conservative Christian University) and no one agrees with you on this. The vast body of evidence refutes your ridiculous claim.
Secondly, the United States does not HAVE an "official" language. It never has, so how could we have been "one vote away" from adopting German instead of English?
Thirdly it is true that a lot of Jews speak Yiddish, just like a lot of Italian Catholics in the Middle Ages spoke Italian. But the Bible then and the language of the religion was Latin, just like the Torah and the language of religion in Judaism is Hebrew. Want to be bar (or bat) mitzvahed? You gotta learn a whole ton of Hebrew. And not only that, you have to sing it. In front of the whole temple. And your grandma. (And anyone Jewish knows the terror of that last one.)
This is just another idiot trying to justify Nazism.
Actually, German was considered the second language in several states, such as Pennsylvania, where there was a large influx of German immigrants [Deutsch --> Dutch, aka the Amish]
Wow, you're 100% wrong on all points.
Last time I checked, German words sounded more like English than Hebrew. So you're wrong.
No, the Hebrew word for Jesus was Yeshua. Wiki says:
"The name "Jesus" is an English transliteration of the Latin Iesus which in turn comes from the Greek name. Since most scholars hold that Jesus was an Aramaic-speaking Jew living in Galilee around 30 AD/CE, it is highly improbable that he had a Greek personal name. Further examination of the Septuagint finds that the Greek, in turn, is a transliteration of the Hebrew name Yehoshua;(Yahweh means help/salvation) or the shortened Hebrew/Aramaic Yeshua or Jeshua."
Edit: (All the non-english characters don't show up).
So good job calling the Aramaic speaking people Pagans you uninformed fuckwit.
Third, Jews speak Hebrew. Religious ones learn it before a Bar/Bat Mitzvah as they have to read from the Torah.
Fourth, Yeshua (as you can see from above) has a closer meaning to 'Salvation' which is in line with what your religion believes him to be for.
Also, TetragrammaTON refers to Yhvh, not Jesus you fuckwit.
You are such an uninformed idiot that I can't even continue to look at that post.
<<< 95% of English is derived from Hebrew >>>
Bullshit. Any linguist can tell you that English is a mutt of a language, with very Germanic grammar (and a sizable chunk of the vocabulary as well) mixed in with a very large Latin-based vocabulary, quite a few Greek-based words, and a smattering of others as well (some Hebrew included, yes).
<<< not "latin" as the pope claims, not the "romantic languages" as the Spaniards claim >>>
Guess what, buddy? The "Romance languages" are so called because they derive from Latin, so claiming these are separate is pretty stupid.
<<< Germans are the direct descendants of the Tribe and House of Judah, >>>
Evidence, please?
<<< because our Founding Fathers knew all these links between these languages, the US was one vote away from making German and not English the official language of the US. >>>
I'm going to call bullshit on that one too, seeing as the majority of the nation was of British descent.
<<< The PAGAN name for Jesus is "yeshu" which is a Yiddish [not Hebrew, because jews speak yiddish, not Hebrew] acronym for "may His name be wiped from memory forever". >>>
Evidence (on both counts), please?
Papabear:
<<< English (and German, and Italian, and Spanish, for that matter) is based on Latin. >>>
Italian and Spanish, yes (and French and Portuguese). German is generally not considered to be based on Latin - both are part of the Indo-European language family, but the next level of classification splits them (Latin is an Italic language, German [surprise!] a Germanic one, as is English). English is weird to classify since much of its vocabulary (about 60%, according to Wikipedia) is borrowed from a different language group than its grammar - much of it through the Norman Conquest.
<<< Romantic languages....... >>>
He wasn't that far off - descendants of Latin are generally called the "Romance languages", occasionally "Romanic".
Baal was a pagan God, hence "Hannibaal" who was recently dubbed Hanibal by the English language.
Hannibal's father was a pagan who took his child into a sacrificial temple, and put a knife to his son before saying "Your life is dedicated to Baal" (Baal being their god of war).
It was, of course, a terrifying experience for the young Hannibal. Because of that, Hannibal became a general and fought against the Roman Empire, created a little military technique called Double Entrapment, and in the end lost.
The rest of your argument has so many flaws I'm not going to bother.
LearnHistory: I freely admit I could be wrong, but I'd always understood that Baal not only referred to at least one specific god (possibly several different ones, at different points in history) but also was used to describe either gods in general or a large subclass of gods specifically, basically was kind of like 'moose' - could be one, could be many, who the hell knows.
English is a <i>Germinic</i>, not a German language. The Germanic language group (which is a branch of the larger Indo-European language family), is comprised of such languages such as Dutch, German, English, Gothic, Old Norse, etc. English was the consequence of invasions by Germanic tribes in what is now known as England who were known as the Anglos, Jutes, and Saxons. And as how some other posters pointed out, eventual borrowings from Latin, French, and etc.
Hadanelith #65500
<< What world do you live in? English (and German, and Italian, and Spanish, for that matter) is based on Latin. Now, English is so far from Latin that we don't really bear any direct relation to it, But much of uor word structure is derived from Latin, and the etymologies of many words derive from Latin bases. >>
Hadanelith, thanks for recognizing that this poster is completely delusional, but please see posts by Tiny Bulcher (#65563), Sandman (#65627), and Crosis (#65819) regarding this common misconception. English is a GERMANIC language with heavy Latin-based influence and lots of add-ins, NOT a Latin-based language like French, Italian, or Portuguese.
My thanks to those with the linguistic chops to set things straight in detail.
Incidentally, my favorite T-shirt is one that says, "English doesn't 'borrow' from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar."
~David D.G.
<<< Hah. German is the European language that English has taken the least words from. Mostly it's based on Latin, French and Old Norse. >>>
Old English is derived from early German; the Norse and Latin/French influence aren't really seen until you get to Middle English. (And Old Norse is a Germanic language itself.)
<<< because our Founding Fathers knew all these links between these languages, the US was one vote away from making German and not English the official language of the US. >>>
I'm going to call bullshit on that one too, seeing as the majority of the nation was of British descent.
johnknight is repeating an urban legend:
http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/german.htm
What really happened was that Congress debated passing a law that would have required Federal statutes to be published in both English and German, instead of English-only. It was the vote to adjourn and re-consider the matter later, not an actual vote on any bill, that was defeated by 1 vote.
70% of the English lexicon comes from French, which comes from Latin because, man, on 11th century England was invaded by the Normans who were French. Germans are not descendants of Judah, but of the Indoeuropean tribes that settled on the margins of the Rhine and they were the "Gastarbeiters", when they eastern civilisation and Rome were on the peak of the world. Simple matter of culture.
"German" is a modern language. Back in the old days, there were a whole bunch of related "Germanic" languages that got mixed with the Celtic that was already in the British isles. Celtic itself had gotten some Latin mixed into it by the Romans. Before the Norman Invasion (1066), Old English was spoken. It would be almost unintelligible today: ("Fæder ure, thu the eart on heofonum, si thin nama gehalgod" - hint: "Fæder ure" is "Our Father"). After 1066, French-based words (which are mostly based on Latin) started to be added. All of these languages are members of the "Indo-European" family, as are most European languages (except Basque). Hebrew, along with Arabic, is a member of the "Semitic" family. If the two families are related at all, it would probably be all the way back in the stone age. About the only Hebrew words found in English are modern additions.
As others have noted, Jesus' name was Yeshua . If you were around back then and called Him "Jesus", he wouldn't know who you were talking to. The Greeks called him "Iesous" (yay-so-us) because they don't have an "sh" sound and they added an "s" at the end to make it "sound" Greek. The "J" sound was inherited from the French in the 1100's. The modern pronunciation came into being around the 1500's.
Maybe johnknight is confusing Hebrew with German Yiddish, which is derived from German dialect (not the other way around).
*Kisses everyone that wrote out the PROPER linguistic history, especially Tiny Bulcher, who did the most.* I love you guys. I was scared that I was going to have to explain all of that, while sitting in a pit of anger at this ignorance. *phew* Thank you!
Ow...my brain. It hurt itself trying to wrap itself around this sad attempt at explanation...there is no logic here!
I'm sorry, but last I checked, the modern English language was divided into fifths in terms of word derivation. It's 1/5 Latin, 1/5 Greek, 1/5 Germanic, 1/5 French, and 1/5 everything else. Hebrew fits into that last fifth, but it doesn't take up 95% of anything. Oig.
Love it how he contradicts himself with his views of the Jews, etc.
Wrong, most of English is derived from Saxon, Celtic, German, and Norse. Then there is the Greek, Latin, French, Spanish, Japanese, hell English is the Borg of languages. It assimiliates everything it comes in contact with.
the last time i checked, the words 'derived', 'similarity', 'language', 'romantic', 'claim', 'direct', 'ignore', 'number', 'changes' ALL CAME FROM LATIN, IDIOT! (not to mention the word 'latin' itself!)
Actually, Yiddish is a derivative of medieval German and is spoken by most European Jews (Ashkenazi) as a daily language. It is referred to in Yiddish as the 'Mother Tongue', while Hebrew is reserved for religious purposes. In addition to Yiddish Spanish Jews (and their ancestors spread throughout the world after their expulsion from Spain in 1492)speak a derivative of medieval Spanish known as Ladino. They are known as Sephardim. Like the Askenazi Jews, Hebrew is reserved for religious purpose.
However, upon the formation of Israel in 1948 Hebrew was declared to be its official language. Thus Jews in Israel speak Hebrew as well as Yiddish or Ladino, as well as many of their ancestral mother tongues.
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