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Is the theory of evolution racist? Do the people here who believe in evolution support Darwin's viewpoint on the races? Do you guys believe negros are an inferior and subhuman species that are no more than talking apes?

Merqutio, Rapture Ready 21 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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cyborgtroy

I believe that African-Americans are the same kind of talking bipedal apes that Caucasians are, just with a different skin pigment.

12/22/2007 8:03:10 PM

Hawker Hurricane

Well, here's the great part about science: we can take the parts of Darwin's theory that work in the real world (descent with modification, plus natural selection) then ignore his personal views entirely.
Unlike Creationists, who have to bend over backwards to make excuses for why the all loving God murdered every human and animal on the planet except for the ones on a impossibly large wooden boat.

12/22/2007 9:30:49 PM

Alena

EXACTLY. THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

YOU'VE CAUGHT US.

WE'RE ALL RACIST!

In fact, our rampant racism is the only reason we actually believe in evolution. It's got nothing to do with science at all.

12/22/2007 9:42:58 PM

Tempus

Got some news for you, Sparky.

In Darwin's day, nearly everyone was a racist, far worse than now. Most Europeans and people of European descent of the time believed that Caucasians were inherently superior to all other ethnic groups.

To put it in perspective, Newton believed that his calculus was a mere toy. He was obsessed with the transformation of lead into gold, and believed that he would be remembered longest for his work in alchemy.

His personal views are as irrelevant as Darwin's. Or should we also ban advanced mathematics because Newton was a wannabe sorcerer?

12/23/2007 12:55:38 AM

Safaraz

Yes, because the difference in about 6 genes is *really* important to us people who understand genetics...

12/23/2007 1:14:11 AM

Delirium

1. Darwin actually was not as racist as he's made out to be. Hell, he was actually pretty progressive for his time on the issue of race.
2. "Negro" is actually a pretty racist term there, skippy.

12/23/2007 1:56:46 AM

TB Tabby

Darwin was no racist. His writings on the African tribes focused on how similar they were to caucasians in many different ways.

12/23/2007 2:00:22 AM

The Joker

Evolution states nothing about one skin pigment being higher than the other.

12/26/2007 7:34:58 AM

Freboy

Yes, Hitler used a distorted form of evolutionary theory to rally support for his politics.

But the idea of racial purity goes against the fundamentals of genetics, so you both lose.

12/26/2007 10:19:20 AM

Son of Makuta

Putting words in our mouths there, sah. Black people =/= inferior alternate species. Black people = white people + extra melanin pigment, an evolutionary adaptation to protect from the harmful UV rays of the sun in hot, dry climates. No more, no less.

Now fuck off, y'racist.

2/24/2010 7:51:50 AM

Angua

Is the theory of gravity superstitious? Do people here support Newton's view on alchemy?

There that makes just as much sense.

2/25/2010 12:35:48 AM

Swede

Society's perception has changed since then. "Everybody" thought like Darwin at his time of life.
That's what progress is; we realize our old ways are ineffective or inhumane, and change accordingly.

The Theory itself is not racist. It says that living things adapt to a changing environment.
What's racist about that?

2/25/2010 12:43:45 AM

GigaGuess

No, the "Race" in context of Darwin's title has nothing to do with skin color.

I don't think you even know what his view on races is, so kindly stop blithering on about it.

No, Africans are, at the very most, a different breed of homo sapiens, much like a basset hound to a rottweiler. They have distinct characteristics, but are, no matter how you cut it, still the same species as I am, and not...oh...cursed with a different skin color, and calling it the...oh what was it..."The mark of..." Oh, it's on the tip of my tongue...

5/25/2010 3:16:16 PM

SpacemanSpiff

Evolution itself doesnt require belief you fucking morons.

I don't give a shit what darwins personal viewpoints were and I'm in no way obligated to support them if I disagree or find them objectionable.

5/25/2010 4:57:18 PM

J

In Evolution, species dominate, not races. Blacks, whites, native americans, asains, etc, are all the same species.

7/12/2010 1:34:15 PM

anti-nonsense

Darwin was not unusually racist by the standards of his time, and may have been less racist then many people in his society.

Racism was the mainstream view back then.

7/12/2010 1:46:33 PM

Big One

No, I think that general perceived intellectual inferiorness of black people is more a social issue than a biological issue. Given the same chances, they succed the same.

On the other hand, you calling them negros said truck load about what you think of them.

12/2/2011 9:31:11 AM

Grigadil

If someone disentangled 'social Darwinism' from the Darwinian principle of evolution, might that help?

12/2/2011 12:26:16 PM

EG

> Is the theory of evolution racist?
No.

> Do the people here who believe in evolution support Darwin's viewpoint on the races?
Irrelevant.
Although I don't know that Darwin held particularly strong views on that, especially considering the times in which he lived.

> Do you guys believe negros are an inferior and subhuman species
No.

> that are no more than talking apes?
Aren't we all?

12/2/2011 1:56:55 PM

Canadiest

This is sheer projection, one of their favorite games.
The RaptureReady crowd is made up mainly of two types of racist, the full on white supremist, all others must be enslaved or dead and the enablers who never speak of their racism.
Lot like the Tea-Party

As others have noted Darwin was in support of no superior race and against slavery when that wasn't popular, especially within his Christian brethern.

12/2/2011 2:21:37 PM

Renon

No. But then again, Darwin never said that.

12/20/2011 2:13:44 PM
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