What you have to understand as I have. Is that evil is not created but it is the absence of creation. Evil are just voids of spiritual nothingness floating around. Or it can be looked at as rips in the fabric of creation that lets the non-creation in or leads us outside of creation. How can God create nothing? Look at it this way, the bible says that hell is spiritual death. Death is the absence of life so it makes sense that evil is an empty void. It is a void because it lacks God.
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This is the ultimate in stupid morality arguments. Idiot! Evil is killing people for fun. Evil is starving others for your own greed. Evil is raping people for any reason. Evil is something you DO, not some anti-physical holes in space, you ridiculous FUCK! Go drink bleach.
So, if I were just walking around being a generally good guy... I could accidently stumble into a spiritual void that's floating around? And I could then leave creation?like a thing --into the something?" might be a better one.
like, yeah, man. Whoa, and there's, like, all these colours, man, and spiders...
"What you have to understand as I have."A. This is not a complete sentence or thought.
B. Do not presume to tell me what I have to understand.
"Is that evil is not created but it is the absence of creation."
I don't know, is it?
OK, OK. Your own Bible states that God created evil.
"Evil are just voids of spiritual nothingness floating around. Or it can be looked at as rips in the fabric of creation that lets the non-creation in or leads us outside of creation."
How did your "God" create non-creation? You do see the problem here, don't you?
"How can God create nothing?"
Another good question, different, but still good.
"Look at it this way, the bible says that hell is spiritual death. Death is the absence of life so it makes sense that evil is an empty void. It is a void because it lacks God."
You can't have it both ways. Don't shift your agrument back and forth between spiritual and actual events.
Yes, and in space, no one can hear you scream.
Neverending story (the first movie) is better than any religion. Fantasyland with real coherant concepts, a parody and analizis of religion and philophisy.
Right up there with Alice In Wonderland or Wizard of Oz. Other books or movies that trump Christianity for relevance and understading what humans are.
If Hell is a void, it is a spiritual death, then it shouldn't be unending torment, it should just be END. Also, the idea that evil is the absence of good (or "creation" in this case) only works when you are dealing with the concept of good and evil at such an abstract level that you are able to wash over the things that are being considered as good and evil in the first place.
Example human evils: rape, murder, theft, violence.
What exactly are the above "an absence of"? It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to say that the idea that the things called evil could be an absence that things are good. However, the things that are generally considered good can actually be imagined as the absence of bad things.
Beauty is the absence of blemishes, patience is the absence of saying "FUCK THIS", kindness is the absence of cruelty, having good genes is the absence of having bad genes. Of course, consider things like charity or "good food" and using simple absence of bad as a defining trait for good is just as banal as the reverse. But I do argue that it does make more sense than the reverse.
"What you have to understand as I have. Is that evil is not created but it is the absence of creation. Evil are just voids of spiritual nothingness floating around. Or it can be looked at as rips in the fabric of creation that lets the non-creation in or leads us outside of creation. How can God create nothing? Look at it this way, the bible says that hell is spiritual death. Death is the absence of life so it makes sense that evil is an empty void. It is a void because it lacks God."
I tried understanding the above but... nope. Nothing. It's an absolute void.
Confused?
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