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Re: Nationalist 'leprosy' spreading in Europe, Macron says

(DiethylamideProphet)

In MY opinion we should strengthen the EU and have it become a federal organisation. We should have an official language (Even as a French i know that English would be the more logical and efficient choice) and some standards (for example for electrical norms).

Why should we destroy all the cultural and ethnic diversity and self-governance by melting every nation to a one rootless and superficial economical bloc?

This kind of union should happen everywhere in the world, with south america, parts of Asia, Africa, the middle east...

If the unions would be like EU is today, I would have no issue with them. The issues arise when these unions start having authority over different peoples and their self-governing nations.

To finally unite mankind under one flag, one language, one economical and social system. The next step or one of the steps used for this should also be a greater push for space exploration and the institution of colonies. Survival of the specie being the key.

I don't want a world where all the cultures and languages are wiped out by some utopian vision of a united mankind.

Ask yourself, if not constrained by fictional boundaries, scarcity or artificial differences, without the idea of nation states, without outdated notions of binary ideologies and the market as a motivational factor, what exactly is it that keeps us from achieving all that mankind dreams ? Nothing.

My dream is a culturally diverse planet where different peoples have the means to choose their own future with their own rules and customs. Not an artificial political entity with huge power but zero legitimacy in the eyes of these people, controlling us in ways that we don't even want.

(Spirit_Inc)

Well then you dreams has no chance of surviving, it will only end in conflict.

I would rather choose conflict now and peace later than believing in a fairy tail and getting hit in the head after.

Imagining that there would be no conflicts in "united mankind" is such a delusion and fairy tale you talk about.

What do you think will happen when there will be no national competition and conflicts? There will be racial, ethnic, religious and ideological conflicts.

Nature hates vacuum.

Utopian ideologists are responsible for the most horrible atrocities in human history.

Still better than the stupid form of national institution we have right now.

Conflict can be solved if you have the will to do what need to be done also.

What is "better"? Do you know who religious and racist fanatics are? You will get that on global scale!

Same can be said about current way humans organize.

The idea of "humanity united under one flag" is more than obsolete. There will always be regions and cities, we are as close to the peaceful earth as it gets. Going further means global police state.

(denotative_designate)
Why should mankind be united under one flag?

That sounds like an entropic Christian hogwash to me.

(Zorthianator_V2)
Jesus dude, that's some fucked up naive, Star Trek, Sci-Fi bullshit that you just wrote.

Nah, I prefer to have my country, my culture and my language over some stitched up bullshit nation that usually ends with a shit ton of bloodshed.

Tribalism is human nature.