So, how were Nazi eugenics different from pig-breeding*, which of course never happened before Darwin?
(*technically, I mean, not morally)
8/29/2006 11:14:29 AM
Darwin is as responsible for the Holocaust as the Chinese (inventors of gunpowder) were responsible for the deaths of the defenders of the Alamo.
DJK, you are a stupid, stupid man. Have you decided that you can create '6 degrees of Charles Darwin' and connect him to anybody? You are truly a pathetic little worm.
8/29/2006 11:47:53 AM
Copernicus is responsible for slavery!
Coming next week, Calculus and World War I
8/29/2006 12:03:05 PM
I predict that public school teachers will be cleaning up the mess left behind in the minds of schoolchildren everywhere by Darwin's Deadly Legacy for years to come. :(
8/29/2006 12:27:52 PM
I get the feeling that the lack of evolutionary theory would not have significantly hindered Hitler in his obsessive quest to rid the earth of his chosen hate groups. He'd just have fallen back on his other excuses (They killed Christ, they secretly run the economy, they eat babies, they have big noses and cooties, etc etc)
8/29/2006 12:46:22 PM
To put it simply, you are about as far wrong as can be.
8/29/2006 1:01:27 PM
8/29/2006 1:09:08 PM
A christian creationist at that.
8/29/2006 1:44:05 PM
GODWIN Ftw!!!! seriously, wouldn't anyone with a firm understanding of evolution and genetics see that there is no scientific basis for race and that those of mixed race might be \"superior\" in that they are less susceptible to genetic disorders that plague pure breeds?
8/29/2006 1:46:40 PM
The only way Darwin could have been in any way responsible for Hitler was if he had either raised him or been one of his ancestors. As far as I know, neither was the case. This show's entire \"reaoning\" is flawed from the foundation up, and it also resorted to fraud against at least one of its guests to garner \"support\" for its position, so it deserves to be presented as nothing more serious than an MST3K flick.
Unfortunately, however, I agree with g-21-lto that teachers will probably have to be doing damage control for quite some time on account of this show -- as if they didn't have enough trouble already.
8/29/2006 2:10:28 PM
So it wasn't that Hitler was evil and berserk that was the problem- it was that he believed in evolution?
8/29/2006 2:32:05 PM
This type of reasoning has a name. Argumentum ad Nazium
Example: The Nazis favored eugenics.
Therefore, eugenics is wrong.
Counter-Example: Hitler was a vegetarian.
Therefore, vegetarianism is wrong.
Playing the Hitler Card demonizes opponents in debate by associating them with evil, and almost always derails the discussion. People naturally resent being associated with Nazism, and are usually angered. In this way, playing the Hitler Card can be an effective distraction in a debate, causing the opponent to lose track of the argument. However, when people become convinced by guilt by association arguments that their political opponents are not just mistaken, but are as evil as Nazis, reasoned debate can give way to violence. So, playing the Hitler Card is more than just a dirty trick in debate, it is often \"fighting words\".
8/29/2006 2:48:39 PM
More like: \"No Xianity, no holocaust\".
8/29/2006 3:21:27 PM
That´s why some Christian said that Hitler was right, because he was punishing the deicides.
8/29/2006 3:52:01 PM
From that same site:
“The time has come,” Dr. Kennedy said, “to recognize that evolution is a bad idea and should be, frankly, discarded into the dustbin of history.”
So all the creationist yahoos may rejoice. O' brave new world...
8/29/2006 5:03:42 PM
Natural evolution and forced interbreeding alongside mass genocide
are. not. the. same.
8/29/2006 5:09:44 PM
Tactical Nuclear Goodwin
8/29/2006 5:13:54 PM
Actually the thing most responsible for the Holocaust, was WWI. Seriously, if Germany hadn't been defeated during WWI there wouldn't have been an opportunity for Hitler to rise to power.
Thus, I say we should blame Archeduke Franz Ferdinand for the Holocaust. If he hadn't died horribly at the hands of assasins there would never have been a WWI and Hitler would never have risen to power!
8/29/2006 5:31:16 PM
I'm with DoctorX on this one: Tactical Nuclear Godwin Award seems appropriate here.
8/29/2006 6:08:33 PM
By this \"logic\" the person who discovered fire is as evil as Hitler. I mean, it's a very useful thing, which has killed millions over the years when misused or uncontrolled. Same with knives, guns, alcohol, cars, etc.. Just because something has bad effects when misused doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
Also, just because some fact can be misused (and what fact can't be?) does not make it less true.
8/29/2006 6:24:41 PM
From what deepest, darkest recess of your colon did you pull this diseased gem of stupidity?
Hitler firmly believed he was doing the work of the Christian God by eliminating the mongrel races.
You, sir, are an idiot.
8/29/2006 6:25:22 PM
Did this man read Mein Kampf
8/29/2006 7:33:55 PM
Napoleon the Clown
D for dickwad?
Without Christianity, no Hitler.
8/29/2006 7:54:05 PM
\"No Darwin, No Hitler,\" eh?
How about \"No Christianity, No Crusades\"...
8/29/2006 8:29:14 PM
While we're at it, let's blame Napoleon for smashing the Holy Roman Empire and giving rise to the proto-German state of Prussia from its ashes.
Or Otto I the Great, who many people credit with the founding of the HRE.
On a note related to the Whoor of Babble-on: A friend of mine once claimed that the HRE threw Christians to the lions. Apparently he was confusing Otto I's Empire with Augustus Caesar's. This led on to a conversation in which he smeared the Roman Catholic Church with almost everything but the blood libel.
Oy, I say. Oy, oy, oy.
8/30/2006 8:22:50 PM