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Because NOTHING can be that one-in-infinity chance. That's the nature of infinity. The only chance of a single finite result in infinite possibility is with infinite attempts. And if there are, in fact, infinite universes (and there very well might be) then that GUARANTEES there's a God out there. Because on of those infinite realities would have exactly the properties to turn an entire universe into a single sentient lifeform (life in this case is a loose term).

udsuna, Eyes on Final Fantasy 30 Comments [8/31/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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mad dog

\"So, in an infinite number of universes (which cannot exist), not only would God exist, but so would an anti-God that would completely destroy God.\"

Einstein presented the possibility of infinite parallel universes, so don't be so sure. Also, why would there need to be an Anti-God, if a god existed?

9/2/2006 11:55:56 AM

Darwin's Lil Girl

You are an idiot. In fact, you are so much of an idiot, any god would have killed you out of sheer mercy. You're still alive, ergo, there is no God. Q.E.D.

3/1/2008 4:26:01 AM


@mad dog: "Einstein presented the possibility of infinite parallel universes, so don't be so sure. Also, why would there need to be an Anti-God, if a god existed?"

I believe the idea is that, if an infinite number of universes (and thus infinite possibilities) 'guarantees' that there's a God out there by the sheer fact that there are infinite attempts, then - by extension - an infinite number of universes 'guarantees' everything. Including an 'anti-God' being, as well as the universe-destroying bomb mentioned earlier.

3/1/2008 1:07:37 PM

The logic here confuses me a little bit. There's no such thing as a one-in-infinity chance, as that isn't a fixed probability ratio, since infinity isn't a number.

That there seems to be the only difference between the logical argument for the possibility of the advent of a divine creature and the possibility of the Big Bang, where the Big Bang possibility is explained in that anything with a finite probability can happen over an infinite span of time (and since there is no fixed knowledge or estimation of the span of time between the Big Bang and... Whatever existed before it, complete emptiness I guess, it can be assumed that this span of time could be infinitely long). This is equivalent to saying that, no matter how improbable it may be, if you flip a quarter repeatedly over an infinite span of time, at some point in time it may land on its side and produce a result other than 'heads' or 'tails'.

If one assumes there is a fixed probability in God's existence (something other than one-in-infinity, or its logical equivalent, zero-in-any-fixed-number), then yes, it is POSSIBLE that such a God exists when presented with the possibility that there are infinite universes in which a God could exist, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's GUARANTEED.

So applause for udsuna for producing an argument that is logically respectable, but not sound.

8/21/2008 1:24:38 AM


Except, given that for the universes to be considered separate, they must have disconnected space-time continua. Thus the deity in question would have no control over other universes (let alone create them). Please, please, understand what you're talking about before you open your mouth. You just end up looking like a fool.

8/26/2012 8:16:44 AM

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