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Cardinal Alfonso Llopez Trujillo announced Tuesday that the Colombian Catholic Church has excommunicated all persons involved in obtaining an abortion for an 11-year-old girl, who became pregnant after she was raped.[...]

Archishop Luis Augusto Castro, president of the Bishops’ Conference of Colombia, spoke out against the Court’s decision to accept abortion in difficult cases involving rape or incest, saying “The child is innocent…the criminal should be punished and put in jail for a long time, but the child should not have to pay for the sins of another. He is an innocent baby.”

Cardinal Alfonso Llopez Trujillo, LifeSite 37 Comments [8/31/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Yes, let's further torture the pre-teen girl so we don't \"punish\" a non-sentient non-child. Becuse that's the compassionate thing to do!

8/31/2006 4:27:50 AM


You pro-life hypocrites. To save the life of a 'child', you destroy the life of another.

8/31/2006 4:29:00 AM

Winston Jen

I wonder what they'd say if she tried to self-abort and died from that.

They'd probably say, \"Oh, she deserved it.\"

8/31/2006 4:31:15 AM


Bloody hell, She is an innocent eleven yealr old child, don't torture her further you bastards.

8/31/2006 4:56:35 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Okay, I'm going to implant a large, obtrussive device in your abdomen. If it is removed prematurely, it will kill someone you don't know. This device will make your life hell. After the nine month period, you will be required to take care of this device for years to come.

Sound fair?

8/31/2006 5:25:57 AM


“The child is innocent…the criminal should be punished and put in jail for a long time, but the child should not have to pay for the sins of another.\"
I completly agree.
\"He is an innocent baby.\"
You where talking about the unborn, I thought you where talking about the poor girl that was raped.

8/31/2006 5:29:05 AM

Mary Sunshine

Someone once said, \"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.\"

I have nothing to add to that.

8/31/2006 5:44:35 AM


There are no words for how pissed this makes me.

Forget the \"innocent child\" who was raped, our only concern now is that her pre-teen body and mind be forced through a more-than-likely unhealthy and traumatizing pregnancy which she must suffer through no fault of her own. Our only concern now is her fetus.


8/31/2006 6:14:16 AM


So you know it was going to be a HE?

It's not bad enough that an 11 year old is raped, you think she should risk her life to double in size and give birth to a rapist's baby? Nice. I'm sure she'll be a well-adjusted, 11 year old mother.

Feel good that you were excommunicated from that group of short-sided idiots. The stories that I usually see involving Cardinals would lead me to believe that there is a good chance Alfonso Llopez Trujillo was the sperm donar.

8/31/2006 6:24:20 AM


Oh now come-on she's eleven.

8/31/2006 9:29:50 AM


Your Eminence, I respectfully beg you to go fuck yourself with a handgrenade. Please don't forget to wrap barbed wire around it and to dip it into tabasco sauce.

8/31/2006 11:22:23 AM


How many eleven-year-olds can safely deliver what could very well be a full, normal-size baby? Apparently she's well through puberty, but I'd have to think this would count as a (physical as well as mental) health-of-the-mother exception.

As the sane judges appear to have concluded as well.

8/31/2006 11:25:32 AM


What Amos said.

8/31/2006 11:57:35 AM

Mister Spak

In the catholic religion, excommunication = going to hell.
Apparently participating in an abortion
made neccesary by rape is a worse crime than the original rape.

8/31/2006 12:02:39 PM


On the other hand I'm glad they now apparently find the idea that believers' sins have been washed away by a ritual sacrifice of an innocent child of God appalling and also have abandoned the concept of original sin.

Huh? What do you mean the same reasoning doesn't apply to those cases? Why? ... Because it just doesn't?! What kind of argument is that? ... What's a matter of faith and why would this be one? ... You say the world is mysterious and nobody understands it completely? What does that have to do with this? ... Some things must just be accepted? Oh, come on! ... Why are you running away with your hands on your ears while cursing me?

8/31/2006 12:55:09 PM

David D.G.

I respectfully suggest that that Cardinal Trujillo be excommunicated from the human species.

I hope that every person who helped this poor little girl get that medical procedure wears their excommunication as a badge of honor. I know I would.

~David D.G.

8/31/2006 1:55:54 PM

Lya Kahlo

Way to fly that misogynist flag there, psycho. What type of monster can say that an ELEVEN YEAR OLD CHILD shuld be forced to bare a child for a rapist, and still be able to sleep at night.

Did you excummicate the rapist, you sick fuck? Or is raping a child a lesser crime?

Disgusting. Revolting. Evil. These words too weak to describe what I feel.

8/31/2006 2:05:54 PM


Why is it that Catholics who disagree with the Catholic church remain Catholic?

8/31/2006 2:21:28 PM


David D.G. -- Absolutely.

Yeah, forcing an 11 y/o to have her rapist's baby, that'll be good for everyone. Jeez! This guy's so out of touch he doesn't even know the gender of a girl. Why should he be in charge of anything more important than a half a glass of tepid water?

8/31/2006 3:36:37 PM


That is the problem with inflexible, absolute doctrines..they are inhuman because they allow no room for compassion, and exceptions to the rules... due to individual and mitigating cicumstances.

8/31/2006 4:23:12 PM


The problem is that there's no responsibility on the part of such people who make such pronouncements.

If such people and their organisations could be sued for the maintanance and upkeep of unwanted babies, I think a theological justification would be found very rapidly.

8/31/2006 5:22:57 PM

Winston Jen

Noself: There already are theological justifications, it's just that the Religious Reich chooses to ignore them.

For starters, babies weren't counted in the OT until they were two months old. Also, one traditional test for adultery involved taking an herb that precipitated an abortion.

8/31/2006 5:27:37 PM


Sick bastards!!
I really want to get my hands on these sickos, so they will meet their \"maker\" a bit sooner!! >:(

8/31/2006 5:33:12 PM


I'm pro-life, but in cases like this, common sense would tell you to abort. First, the girl is not at fault for the rape. Why does she have to suffer and spend the rest if her childhood as a mother if it wasn't even her choice? Second, the fetus isn't technically a \"baby\" until it grows a brain and a beating heart. I don't support abortion for no reason, but to make a kid suffer for something she didn't do, and to make her spend her childhood nurturing a baby, AND to put her life at risk by making her have a baby at a premature size and age, ALL for the sake of a few cells who haven't even become self aware, is the most evil thing in the world. I don't think God himself would approve of this.

8/31/2006 6:00:20 PM


words fail me.

8/31/2006 7:12:31 PM

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