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I disagree with the premise of the geologic column, since there is no evidence for it (it only exists in the text books). Mt St Helens was your death knell, since even some unbelieving geologist scientists admit 90% of all geology was overturned by that event. Now you even have a growing number of evos who admit the evidence for the Grand Canyon supports the theory that it was carved out rapidly by a water breech. So much for the “geologic column” existing there!

Fred Williams, Evolution Fairytale Discussion Forum 13 Comments [8/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Understand what the hell it is your arguing against to avoid looking brain dead.

12/26/2006 3:22:43 AM


Mount St. Helens? Is this a reference to any particular bullshit being passed around?

12/26/2006 3:29:53 AM

David D.G.

Amos: The pyroclastic flow was only theoretical until the Mount St. Helens eruption, so it did break new ground for geologists (pun intended!), but this guy is going wildly overboard in his claims of it overturning \"90%\" of mainstream geology/vulcanology or, in particular, of it in any way discrediting either the geologic column or the fossil record. He, or whoever wrote the stuff he has bought into, is lying like a rug to say otherwise.

~David D.G.

12/26/2006 4:07:55 AM


amos, i think i know what he's on about.

if i recall, some guy took a \"fresh\" sample, and sent it in for the wrong dating method. (i forget which one, but one of the ones with ridiculously large error bars for material not over a few thousand years old).

anyway, it got on the Internet, was quote-minded and now exists as a lesser known creo old-earth \"refutation\".

12/26/2006 5:01:34 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Sorry about that F in Geo 101 Fred.
Lying won't make it go away.

5/3/2012 8:45:25 AM


As so often, the question boils down to: is the author an ignoramus or a liar?

5/3/2012 11:31:52 AM

meandering river carved by rapid water flow ? no sorry, doesnt work that way.

what about the high spot through which the canyon was carved. Its either slow uplift or water flows uphill.

5/3/2012 2:02:02 PM


For all you idiots trying to claim Mt St Helens disrupted any scientific beliefs:

There's been people studying active volcanoes in Hawaiia and Iceland for over a hundred years, Mt St Helens eruption didn't surprise anyone in the field nor did it's results. It was that field that called for evacuation.

5/5/2012 7:32:09 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Fred ain't real bright and he lies a lot.

10/18/2012 8:03:38 AM


"Now you even have a growing number of evos who admit the evidence for the Grand Canyon supports the theory that it was carved out rapidly by a water breech."

Whilst these - as well as the equally rally spec. Subaru Imprezas - are powerful, not even these are THAT powerful, and I'll just go get my coat, shall I...?! [/smartarse] X3

10/18/2012 11:11:22 AM

Someone's making shit up. 90% huh? Did you learn statistics from watching toothpaste commercials?

3/31/2013 2:52:02 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Fred ain't real bright.

12/19/2013 6:44:52 AM


Fred, you've gotta get out of the house more often. There are more rocks out there.

8/16/2017 1:50:41 PM

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