Neo-darwinism is truly a National disgrace. I do not say this as a cheap attempt at an insult. I say it with all honesty. Satan -- with the help of his little red-headed, mental-terrorist step-child (Charles Darwin) -- has turned this great nation upside-down. A small percentage of atheistic intelligence bandits have somehow managed to manipulate their way into the hearts and minds of the general population.
And this has been done though large-scale, mind-numbing, brainwashing techniques that have convinced a large portion ofAmerica that dumb creatures have evolved into intelligent ones. They have succeeded in convincing many that a tricycle can evolve into the space shuttle through blind and purposeless mutations guided by the mere notion that animals actually breed and have offspring. They have dumbed-down
society to the point where many people actually believe this stuff....people actually believe that the only differences between sweaty, bug-picking monkeys and humans are short arms and opposable thumbs. They think the difference between a hippo and a dolphin is just a series of random mutations that reshape the body. Little gets mentioned about how and where a dolphin's sonar came from.
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The mutations themselves may be purposeless, but the overall sum is not. That's why bacteria are so hard to kill: the ones with the mutations that let them not die survive, and then the next gerneration is drug-resistant. Is that really so hard to understand?
Yeh, I don't know about his many thing... People can be dumb but I doubt many people think a tricycle can evolve into a spaceshuttle, or that evolution scientists are even trying to say that, except you that is.
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If supersport is a troll, he's damn dedicated, because he's been all over the Evolution forum over at CF.
And I'm always impressed by the fundie conviction that a small group of atheists can brainwash an entire nation. Damn, we're good!
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I couldn´t agree more. The fundies talk like it´s only in US that it happens... I really can´t grasp this lack of acknowledge that there´s a fuckin' world full of different views and a very wider acceptance of evolution than US. Don´t they know that the place where ToE is challenged the most is only US? Well, not really challenged, because you can´t really challenge a scientific theory based in fairy tales... hehehe. And the atheist and liberals created ToE stuff? This is even more idiotic. I think that anyone that comes with this should be told loud and clear the following words: "You are an idiot, stupid, moronic asshole that don´t have a clue about anything and everytime you open your mouth you look more and more ridiculous. You´re a disgrace for the word "intelligence"."
They have succeeded in convincing many that a tricycle can evolve into the space shuttle
Vehicles do not reproduce themselves, and even if they did they do not have the means for alterations in the blueprints to be passed along. These are the two characteristics that make evolution possible in living creatures. As such, the analogy fails miserably.
"And this has been done though large-scale, mind-numbing, brainwashing techniques that have convinced a large portion ofAmerica that dumb creatures have evolved into intelligent ones"
or
"And this has been done though large-scale, mind-numbing, brainwashing techniques that have convinced a large portion ofAmerica that some all powerful god thing that no one has ever seen or heard from with any proof waves his magic finger and created the cosmos"
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<< Maybe he's so dain-bramaged he simply doesn't realize that Avram Davidson's story "Or All the Seas with Oysters" was fiction. >>
I remember that story -- bonus geek points for the cool reference here!
"Neo-darwinism is truly a National disgrace. I do not say this as a cheap attempt at an insult. I say it with all honesty. Satan -- with the help of his little red-headed, mental-terrorist step-child (Charles Darwin) -- has turned this great nation upside-down. A small percentage of atheistic intelligence bandits...."
If you don't consider this being insulting, I'd hate to see you when you're not being what you consider tactful. Kindly go skinny-dipping in a pool of piranha.
~David D.G.
Fundamentalism is truly a National disgrace. I say this as a cheap insult with all honesty. God -- with the help of his little red-headed, mental-terrorist step-child (Satan) -- has turned this great nation upside-down. A small percentage of theistic intelligence bandits have somehow managed to manipulate their way into the hearts and minds of the governing powers.
And this has been done though large-scale, mind-numbing, brainwashing techniques that have convinced a large portion of America that an ancient book of myths is literally correct. They have succeeded in convincing many that a snake can talk, that dead people have been raised and that someone can walk on water. They have dumbed-down
society to the point where many people actually believe this stuff. People actually believe that humans are in some significant way different from the other species on the planet because God created us in His image, whatever that means.
people actually believe that the only differences between sweaty, bug-picking monkeys and humans are short arms and opposable thumbs.
Only fundies! Most sane people put that as a similarity.
Little gets mentioned about how and where a dolphin's sonar came from.
Aaaah - dolphins were the original fundies... They worshipped the sea as it was the source of all life, and swam in it all day. They also loved the sound of their own voice, and found that it echoed nicely in the sea, so they could talk to themselves all day long - that's where sonar came from. They evolved into dolphins and grew larger brains, whereupon they realised their mistake - they're trying to evolve out of it, but it's going to take a few more million years.
@Sasquatch
What the fuck is "neo-darwinism"?
Darwin's original evolutionary theory plus the explanation for mutations (genetics). Mendel didn't discover genetics until a few years after On the Origin of Species
i'll start this post with our authors wise words "I do not say this as a cheap attempt at an insult"
i find it amusing how people try to sound intelligent (such as this post) through their use of wording, reinvented wording, and style of writing, only to ruin themselves by not considering the context and content of what they just wrote. perhaps not even reading it afterwards, choosing not to take a second chance at a realization of innate lunacy. followed by the submission to a forum filled with relapses of a less evolved people given a computer and keyboard and somehow allowed to go free and spread absolutely retarded propaganda.
i think it would be wise to stop hitting the snooze button and wake the hell up already.
good luck to you...knuckle dragger
The day the fundie idiots in the USA succeed in getting all the school boards in all the states to agree to the teaching of Intelligent Design/Creationism in a science class, is the day I petition the Canadian government to administer a science exam to any immigrants from the USA, and reject any who answer Godditit on the exam.
I don't want any of that gene pollution up here.
They think the difference between a hippo and a dolphin is just a series of random mutations that reshape the body. Little gets mentioned about how and where a dolphin's sonar came from.
Well, I'll give him credit for knowing that dolphins are closely related to hippos, although he probably just picked that up from some creationist web site. But how do creationists explain where the fish got the ability to use the sonar to evade the dolphins? Does it make sense that God would design dolphin sonar, then turn around and design fish with the ability to avoid it? Was He just goofing on the dolphins and teasing them?
Anyway, dolphins use sound and ears for more than just sonar, so there's no reason why sonar wouldn't be selected for if it enabled them to find more food. Even blind humans use a "sonar" of sorts (cane tapping, shuffling shoes), so it's a natural skill.
Is it just me or does inteligence bandit imply one who by fair means or foul has a surpluss of inteligence, one who infact has quite copious intelect?
My id on the other hand would simply like to know where this guy lives so it can beat him with a lead pipe, so it goes.
"...people actually believe that the only differences between sweaty, bug-picking monkeys and humans are short arms and opposable thumbs."
No, monkeys don't delude themselves with mystic bearded boogeymen in the sky watching their every move to punish/reward them with eternal torment/happiness.
Score one for the monkeys.
"hey have succeeded in convincing many that a tricycle can evolve into the space shuttle through blind and purposeless mutations guided by the mere notion that animals actually breed and have offspring."
WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS MEAN?? is this person trying to say that animals don't have children if they don't breed and have offspring...and what does that have to do with turning a tricycle into a space shuttle...WTF, people?
Evidently, not all dumb creatures have evolved into intelligent ones. I sincerely hope he's not a troll - posts like these reaffirm my belief that fundies are an evolutionary dead-end. Not much longer, people, not much longer...
Even in darwins theory there is room for god, just not the bible/
darwin theorey does NOT explain how the world came into existance in the first place and it does not explain how the first single celled orginisms were created, it all had to come from somewhere.
~not saying there is a god, not saying there isn't~
"by the mere notion that animals actually breed and have offspring."
Actually yeah, that's pretty much the case. See, reproduction carries an inherent risk of error. Errors can make a creature better able to live in its environment. Ergo evolution. It does theoretically hold true with any thing that replicates itself, not just biological organisms.
i'm sorry, are you an idiot? tricycles cannot evolve, they are inanimate and not sentient, thus incapable of evolving. Where does a dolphin's sonar come from? evolution. Religion is the most ridiculous load of bullshit i have been subject to my entire life. you say dumb creatures have evolved into intelligent ones? this is achieved by a learning process, if the creatures were truly dumb, they would not have been able to learn how to manipulate their environment, you sir, are an idiot.
1. Tricycles and shuttles aren't creatures.
2. No one has ever suggested that either dolphins or hippos are adaptations of each other.
3. Facts that make you squeamish can also be true. If you plan on living an actual, real life, you'll have to get used to that.
4. The prefix "Neo-" does not mean something is evil or fascist. It means "new." Quit using it as some kind of epithet.
This makes my brain hurt. So do some of the replies. The person that wrote this will probably never see your comment. The tricycle thing is the wrong thing to point out in an argument. How about mutations not being pointless? You know, like a species developing something that's useful to it's survival. Maybe, oh, I don't know, a dolphin's sonar... opposable thumbs... stuff like that.
Dolphin sonar is really, really easy to explain, given that there are a few humans who can do that too. The fact that dolphins have large foreheads that act as "receivers" for sonar clicks seems to be a textbook case of random mutations being selected for -- dolphins with bigger heads can hear the echoes better, and therefore are more successful.
Okay, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the Tricycle/Shuttle thing being a metaphor (Albeit a very, VERY bad one, as one has nothing to do with the other.) Atheists ans scientists (And I do separate them as, while they may not believe it, there are non-scientific minded atheists, and non atheistic scientists. Blows the mind, doesn't it?) follow where the evidence leads. Evolution can be traced even as far back as a generation or two. Antibiotic-resistant bacteria and the Peppered moth, to name a couple of examples. Evolution is not a poof, whoosh, new species thing. It's gradual...a process. But, speaking to someone who insists that we were waved into existence by a sky wizard with nothing better to do, I can see how it could be a bit of a reach to comprehend this idea.
It's funny; it actually requires a modicum of intelligence to understand how evolution works. It's not exactly trivial, so I'm not sure how that qualifies as dumbed down. But hey, it's supersport, whaddya gonna do, right?
Dolphin sonar? Look up "human echolocation" sometime and consider the selection pressures involved.
they can't see or understand that evolution and the scientific take on creationis more wonderful and awesome than the small biblical take.
If I were a deist or theist I coujld only stand astounded by the beauty of it.
As an atheist, I do so stand, amazed and wondered.
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