[Discussing whether to give tracts to children in Halloween, a poster says: "I just think that we need to be respectful of our neighbors, and the parenting decisions that others make.. and I question whether distributing tracts might violate that principal"]
When I see a child, especially children of non
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When I see a child, especially children of christians, I always think of how that child is being brought up being told about the Lord. We shouldn't have to wait until that child grows up (IF they live that long) to tell them the truth. I can understand your point though but the difference is that no one knows the entire truth. No faith relies entirely on facts, evidence and love of truth.
Of course you shouldn't, after all, if you try to introduce your wack doctrine once they're old enough to apply reason and logic and have developed a healthy level of skepticism, they'll tell you to prove it or bugger off.
This is why conscientious parents check every item the kids bring home in their treat bag before allowing them to consume anything- so you can properly dispose of potentially dangerous things, like candy that has been tampered with or tracts from mind-fucked fundies who believe their delusions are Truth.
"the difference is that we KNOW the truth. Other faiths do not."
Sandman -that is exactly the way the first poster argued, saying that he wouldn't give tracts to children of other faiths because he wouldn't like his children to receive Muslim tracts. And, as you see, LivnForChrist just doesn't care about reciprocity: he is right and the others are wrong, dammit! The Golden Rule is wasted on him...
I don't know if this affects anyone else, but is "Good News" the most annoying fundie phrase out there, or what?
"If they live that long"
"I can understand your point though but the difference is that we KNOW the truth. Other faiths do not." should be done, whether it means slipping tracts into Halloween candy bags, attempting to discredit science and promote creationism by any lies necessary, or promoting genocidal war to catalyze the Final War of the End Times. It is this attitude that frightens me most of all.
~David D.G.
Well, this person is the typical fundie. And honestly,contrary to my Baptist friend or my Catholic priest who gave me the first holy communion, she will finish up calling that grown up pagan, godless being and the sort. Guess why?, because of "telling him the truth"
When I see a child, especially children of non"Especially children of non-Christians" implies that you believe that children of Christians are not being taught about "the Lord," too. "When I see a child" implies that you think that every child you see is not being taught about "the Lord."
"We shouldn't have to wait until that child grows up (IF they live
that long) to tell them the Good news."
You don't have any reliable study showing that the children of non-Christians die more frequently at yonuger ages than do the children of Christians do you? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Also, how would you feel if I started evangelizing your children about becoming atheists?
"I can understand your point though but
the difference is that we KNOW the truth. Other faiths do not."
Except that essentially all religions claim to KNOW the truth. Personally, I contend that no religion propounds very much that is remotely associated with the truth.
When I see a child, especially children of non
...the difference is that we KNOW the truth. Other faiths do not.
It IS trick or treat. They give you shit in your bag, you egg the crap outta their house. That's the way we did it in MY DAY!
And the fundies think it a a satanic conspiracy or attack on there Christian faith every Halloween when their house & car gets egged , there mail box is full of shaving cream and the toilet paper is hanging from ever tree in there yard
Does LivnForChrist go up to people at McDonalds and start lecturing them about how they're not feeding their kids healthy food, or rant at people in parking lots when he sees them pull in without their seatbelts fastened or yell at peole who leave the rest room without washing their hands? At least these things have some rational basis for criticism. Why does he think he's free to start teaching kids his religion because he thinks it's better than their parents' beliefs?
When I see a child, especially children of non-Lilayeneh orders, I always think of how that child is being brought up not being told about her holiness, Lilayeneh. We shouldn't have to wait until that child grows up (IF they live that long) to tell them that Lilayeneh can bring peace and prosperity to the world. I can understand your point though but the difference is that we KNOW the truth. Other people still perceive Lilayeneh as a monster. Thus, I contend we must bring them to the Order of Lilayeneh, even if deception is required.
Jeez, i really hate those obnoxious, presumptuous christian cocksuckers that claim to be "SURE" of what they believe and then question other people's proof based, rationally attained, sanely maintained behaviour and way of life...
When I see a child, especially children of non
When I see you, my blood boils, my hair creeps, and my nerves freak. Why? because you want to take it upon yourself to harrase a parant into your ideals, force conformity upon them and make them you. Jesus said all whom believe will live forever, I believe and never went to church till I was 12 so where does that put me? Im 14 almost 15, I believe in jesus (but he was arab), and I believe god created the world, not in one day though as in gods time a day could be millions of years, something that gives some evidence that god created everything but set in evolution as his way of tinkering with us without it being obvious, but to you I am a lost cause that will burn alone and sad. When the day comes you will stand outside the pearly gates and wonder "why I am I here and not their" and you will reliese the error in your ways.
I don't "KNOW" I'm right in being an atheist. For all I know there is a god (not Jehovah, mind you, absolutely impossible) but at this point, it's the only logical religious stance
No one is going to Trick-or-Treat at your his/her, anyway. Kids have a sixth sense about where stingy, slf-righteous people live.
I admire the poster that this is a response to (about respecting neighbors). I have neighbors who are conservative Christians (I think they're Christian, I know they're conservative) and they never torment anyone with evangelism, nor does anyone (I hope) torment them. On Halloween, they just didn't go out or have candy.
when i was younger a got a little book in my candy bag.
CRazy
I think it's a good idea. The poor kid rings the bell expecting candy, and instead, gets a scrap of paper shoved in his/her hand. Guess where that paper will end up? At least the kid will grow up knowing what a fun-hating bunch the fundies are and stay away from them in future. Another mind saved, with a chance to think for itself!
Really? I thought MY truth, that we were all sweated out of the primal frost giant, Hymir, and that the world will end in a giant battle, was the only truth. Well, now i don't know what to think.
If I had a kid who went trick or treating and came home with some "Jesus Loves You!" pamphlet from my neighbor, I'd tell them they could read it, but that it was just one big lie.
Then I would egg the neighbor's house and put dog shit in their mailbox.
Lets edit this one some more!
What if the other parents report you to the police for harrassment and invoke the same "my god has a bigger dick than yours"stuff?. Moreover, what will you do when you justify homeschooling your kids and protesting every possible institution invoking the supposed sacred right of parents to use their children to their whim?. The hint that you can make exceptions when it's not convenient to you is not going to work.
... we KNOW the truth. Other faiths do not.
How funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing - but I'm a pastafarian! We pastafarians KNOW the truth. Other faiths do not.
Good News? It's bad news. Always subordinate to a jealous God who imposes morals but is immoral himself.
I sound like the Antichrist now, but yeah. I have wondered if the fundies are right and I'm the Antichrist, but that's just me.
The "Good news": We are all sinners and are going to burn in hell forever. The only way to save yourself from never endin' hellfire is to obey bunch of crazy rules my religion says you should. Of course, those that don't know that they are sinning agains' God, are not going to hell, but it's too late for you, because I just told you all about my god and that you are sinning against Him. Anyway, even if you weren't hellbound then, you are now, unless you obey bunch of crazy rules and become born-again nutjob as I am.
Ok, if you´re so right and you know the truth, why are you so inconsistent with "the authority of the parents"?. When it´s not convenient to you, how ready you are to violate it, but when somebody "indoctrinates" your children, you go ballistic. Come on, "my God has a bigger dick than yours" is not valid any longer.
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