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And, I and two other people (neither of whom are or were Christians) heard walking sounds on the roof of a house. They heard it for about 2 weeks, then called me to see what I thought it was. On the third day that I came over, I heard it as well - the walking sounds were just like a person on the roof walking, and would start and stop at random times, and at random places on the roof. The day after I first heard it, we were all in the living room, and it began again. This time, I bowed my head and prayed to God to get rid of what I was sure was a demon, and as I prayed, the walking sounds "sped up" (like someone walking barefoot from a cool sidewalk onto a hot asphalt pavement), and then stopped just to my left, near the hallway to the kitchen. I and one other person quickly opened the sliding door which was just behind me, to see what was on the roof, and to check to see if "it" (human or otherwise) had jumped into the backyard (which was what the sliding door opened to). Nothing was on the roof, and nothing was in the (small and fenced in) backyard. Since that prayer, the walking sounds never returned. Care to offer a reasonable "naturalistic" explanation which reconciles all these facts?

Douglas J. Bender, Internet Infidels 23 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Douglas J. Bender

No one ever refuted that story, nor provided a rational explanation for what occurred, other than the explanation I offered. Merely saying, \"We don't believe in spirits, so you're delusional\", is the same as sticking one's head in the sand and pretending everything will go away.

8/1/2006 10:46:13 PM

CousinTed

Your story is completeyl unverifiable. For all we know you could have just pulled it out of your ass. Give us something besides hear-say and we'll talk. Also, your quote appears to have been posted before the comment system was operational.

8/1/2006 10:54:21 PM

David D.G.

My guess (and I freely admit that's all it is) would be squirrels in the attic.

Without detailed knowledge of the situation (including details you may not have thought relevant to include, or even noticed yourself), I doubt it is possible to \"refute\" your claim with anything provable.

However, that really isn't necessary. What you've got here is no \"evidence\" of spirit/demon presence at all -- merely a conjectured possibility (never proved elsewhere, I might add) for an indistinct noise for which nobody could determine an obvious cause.

In other words, your interpretation of the incident is at least as unproved as mine -- and in fact more so, because I can at least prove that squirrels exist and make thumping noises in attics. You have no evidence whatsoever that demons/spirits/spooks exist.


~David D.G.

8/1/2006 10:56:57 PM

Crosis

<<< My guess (and I freely admit that's all it is) would be squirrels in the attic. >>>

That'd be my first guess too. Those little rodents are a pain in the ass - one actually tore a hole in the underside of the roof to get in our house. About the only thing that worked was a live trap, drive the bastards across the river, and then nail it shut before they found their way back.

8/1/2006 11:02:13 PM

Marlowe

Okay, how about, last night you got high and watched "Signs" and decided that one scene actually happened to you?

2/3/2008 2:20:08 AM

Lainey

My first thought was that the pigeons flew away...but squirrels in the attic make more sense.

2/3/2008 3:41:46 AM

Philbert McAdamia

"Squirrels in the attic" haha, I agree.
Oh! You meant REAL squirrels, I get it. OK, that's a good possibility, too. Around here crows and seagulls will drop nuts and clams from high up to break them open. Works OK on pavement, but sometimes they land on rooftops and it sounds like someone walking around, since they bounce.

2/3/2008 4:05:51 AM

GoFast

"Care to offer a reasonable "naturalistic" explanation which reconciles all these facts?"

Yes. You are a natural at lying.

2/3/2008 4:16:14 AM

BCD

Demons. It's the only logical explanation.

Yep.

2/3/2008 5:15:09 AM

Mondriani

actually "it" had jumped into the backyard and "it" was a human presence so prayers didn't work on "it" and "it" gutted you and your friends open with a butcher knife. Serves you right for hanging around with non-christians!

3/1/2008 2:59:54 AM

Douglas J. Bender

HA HA HA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

3/23/2008 3:57:02 AM

GreasetrapTheViking

santa clause!
and you scared him away with your demon stories, no presents for you this year

3/23/2008 5:38:21 AM

Quetzal

Wait, didn't something like that happen in the movie Signs? Where the two guys heard "something" on the roof, and then ran around the house screaming to scare who they thought it was? Then it jumped off the roof and ran into the cornfield?

Oh, I see Marlowe thought that too.

12/21/2009 1:58:10 PM

FSMpirate

The raccoon (Procyon lotor), sometimes spelled as racoon,[2] and also known as the common raccoon,[3] North American raccoon,[4] northern raccoon[5] and colloquially as coon,[6] is a medium-sized mammal native to North America. As a result of escapes and deliberate introductions in the mid-20th century, raccoons are now also distributed across the European mainland, the Caucasus region and Japan. Their original habitats are deciduous and mixed forests, but due to their adaptability they have extended their range to mountainous areas, coastal marshes, and even urban areas, where some homeowners consider them pests.

I had them in a crawl-space at an appartment once. During semi-conscious interval's, the can most certainly be mistaken for demons.

Rational - check
Concise - check
Demons - ehh...

12/22/2009 1:29:40 PM

JB Mason

Lying for Jesus, or critters in the attic. I'm guessing Lying for Jesus.

2/1/2010 5:06:24 PM



Well, still no rational, naturalistic explanation for my experience. (And, no, "lying" is not an option. One might just as well claim I am not even a human being, but rather an artificial intelligence randomly sharing stories on the Internet.) Neither squirrels, nor raccoons, nor anything of that nature explains the experience -- particularly, those "options" do not explain the "reaction" of the "walker" to my prayer, and most especially they do not explain why the walking sounds completely ceased after my prayer. I suppose one could claim "coincidence", but that would be a "catch-all" explanation that could also explain away Mt. Rushmore.

10/21/2012 10:55:54 AM

Dr.Shrinker

@ #1461144

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You have provided no evidence aside from a wild story. It is possible that you are not remembering the events accurately. And, despite what you claim, it is entirely possible that you are lying.

Burden of proof sir, learn what it means, accept it and deal with it.

11/3/2012 8:40:04 AM

Swede

At night we sometimes hear creaking from our porch. We do not jump to the demon conclusion, however, but suppose that it's the wood, warmed by the sun, that is cooling down.

We also hear clattering in our floor a few times per day during the summer. That's probably not demons either, but the geothermal heat pump that turns on and shuts off. Now in winter, when we need heating constantly, there is no clattering.

I guess the demons hibernate...

11/3/2012 9:04:03 AM

Filin De Blanc

Yes, because "coincidence" is obviously a far less reasonable explanation than "a fell beast from the depths of Tartarus had nothing better to do than potter about on my roof for a bit".

11/3/2012 9:04:55 AM

mellenORL

What utter paranoid/self-aggrandizing nonsense! It was just a raccoon or even likely an oppossum. Both animals can grow to be up to 25 pounds, the size of a medium-ish dog, and an old roof will let through enough sound from their foot steps to sound eerie. Your prayers must have been loud enough to scare it off, or it just wandered off at random. Where I live, the city has lots of trees and small lakes intown - great urban habitat. All kinds of wildlife run and walk about on my roof. One of these little "demons" even came into my home through the doggie door and hid under my bedroom tv stand....hissing and growling it's vicious evil homosexual agenda communist heresy to the ecstatic delight of my two small dogs.....it was a juvenile possum. About the size of an orange. I coaxed it outdoors with a yardstick. Pwaize Jeebus!

11/3/2012 9:09:21 AM

Anon-e-moose

@David D.G.

"My guess (and I freely admit that's all it is) would be squirrels in the attic."



...I wish. Makoto Nanaya, the squirrelgirl in the videogame "Blazblue: Calamity Trigger".

If this was what Dougie heard on his roof, all I'd say is 'You lucky bugger!'. Also, if he was praying for the removal of such, then he must hand over his Straight Membership Club Card, as he exits through the door marked 'Complete FAIL'.

@Swede

Squirrels hibernate too. Oh, if only ^this one would 'hibernate' in my house...?!

11/3/2012 2:11:15 PM

Sasha

The reasonable "naturalistic" explanation, if we subtract actual wildlife, would be that you and your friends should cut waaaaaay back on your drinking.

11/3/2012 6:19:54 PM

Talon

Well, Dougie boy, it could have been something, like a bird, flopping around in the attic that found a way out. Go check for holes and actually think. Damn, the close-mindedness of people these days…

2/14/2013 9:04:14 AM
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