Which Came First: the Egg or the Egg?
You snap your fingers and a green egg appears --- 'fresh laid'.
You snap your fingers again and a red egg appears --- about to be hatched.
You have someone document what you just did.
A scientist comes along and examines both eggs, and your document.
Which one will he conclude came first?
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If you think the scientist would just take your word for ANY of this, you are far more cracked than any egg.
I think the scientist's only conclusion would be that you were delusional, and I would hope that he or she would promptly send for the Men In White to take you away for medical and psychiatric evaluation.
~David D.G.
Who cares? Green eggs, red eggs, produced by the snapping of fingers, that is assuredly a delusion. No real scientist is likely to be interested in that. Well, OK, maybe a psychiatrist would be interested.
A scientist will not believe your explanation of the eggs being "snapped" into existence, unless you can do it repeatably and demonstrate that it is not a stage act. Thus, he will conclude that the red one came first.
If your point is that God could have created the universe with an illusion of age, then you worship a trickster God who has no business being called "good" if he damns you for being fooled by his trick. If that isn't your point, I don't have any clue what the fuck it is, and neither will anyone else.
"This is it. This is your last chance. After this there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. Take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbithole goes." -- Morpheus, The Matrix
Well, to be honest, if the documentation was accurate, he'd probably conclude that the green egg came first.
Now, assuming this is a bible metaphor, the bible isn't accurate documentation. It's a collection of stories VOTED ON by a council and bound into a book. Every story was written long after it "occurred". It doesn't contain carefully documented facts. It's fables written by superstitious folk trying desperately to both justify their lives and beliefs as well as confront the fears of the unknown.
Therefore, this comparison that AV1611VET is trying to make doesn't work.
The green egg appeared first, obviously.. and the red one is just a green one that has had time to ripen. Sheesh, EVERYone knows that! :D
...so many idjits, so few bullets.
This is how stupid AV1611VET is:
I responded to his moronic post that neither egg came, since neither one of them ever got laid (having been "snapped" into existance).
Everyone else got the joke. Did AV1611VET get it? Nope.
It seems to me that since jokes are not mentioned in the bible, most fundies just don't get them.
First he's think the person was full of it, then he'd solve the problem anyway because he must have been paid to, he'd first see if each egg was painted, and if so which was painted first.
After that he would use Carbon dating and reveal that the Green Egg is in fact older than the Red Egg.
I am not even joking here, come to my house. I have a green egg and a red egg both just as you described that I popped into existence with a click of my fingers, my buddy Carl was there and he'll tell ya I'm not lying, he saw the whole thing. In this specific case which one do you think is older ???
Dan:
Yeah, it's definitely some form of Omphalos. Which only goes to prove the embarrassing stupidity of some fundies.
Maronan:
I think your comments are quite unfair to Homsar. What, can't you tell the difference between "stupid" and "word salad"? What are you, a song from the Sixties?
I see the point, but not how it relates.
He's saying that if you have 2 eggs, one of which is about to be hatched the other is newly laid, which if they are of the same species logically the about to be hatched one came first. Of course, the documentation contradicts it, and he's saying that the scientist would believe his logic over the documentation, maybe being the bible has contradictions on it, so he is blaming it on scientists for claiming matter doesn't come from nothingness? Who knows. It's AV, so I doubt we can expect much more than innane ramblings from him anyway.
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-Axx
The scientist will no doubt want: to know where the eggs came from, watch you repeat this egg trick several times,and discuss with his colleagues.
The fundie on the other hand will no doubt try to burn you at the stake for being a demon or something of that ilk.
well first of all, let's see you snap your fingers and make an egg appear. not as easy as it sounds, huh.
second, i assume you are implying that a scientist will think the egg that is about to hatch has been in existence longer. this would be a naive assumption, and most people would look at such things as the temperature of the egg, dust collection, condensation, etc.
of course your all-powerful god thought of this already and made the second egg appear older, didn't he. that tricky bastard.
There are actually chickens that lay different-colored eggs. From Wikipedia:
Chicken eggs vary in color depending on the hen, typically ranging from bright white to shades of brown and even blue, green, and recently reported purple (found in South Asia) (Araucana varieties).
I learned that when I was about ten years old and owned chickens of my own (they only laid brown eggs though).
"Which Came First: the Egg or the Egg?
You snap your fingers and a green egg appears --- 'fresh laid'.
You snap your fingers again and a red egg appears --- about to be hatched.
You have someone document what you just did.
A scientist comes along and examines both eggs, and your document.
Which one will he conclude came first?"
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That's it. AV1611VET's two remaining neurons have gone completely bye-bye, ladies and germs.
So...your question is, "I'm a genie, how will science prove it"?
Maybe by jamming you in a bottle and leaving you on a beach for Larry Hagman to trip over? Then you're JR's fucking problem.
What if you could flap your arms and fly 5 times the speed of sound for hours? And then if you asked a person if they would prefer to travel like that, or buy an expensive ticket to a subsonic flight, where there are long lines, security checks and bad food? See? That proves we don't need airlines and jet planes.
Holy shit it's Q! Quickly, someone loop around the sun to get to the 24th century and get Patrick Stewart's descendant, Jean-Luc Picard, and have him come back with you. It'll be okay, he's dealt with the continuum before.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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