The simple fact of the matter is that since you believe that Reality exists and you have no definition of God to the contrary and the Pantheist God is Nature/Reality, then The Atheist already knows that at least one God is real, Biblical or not.
It seems that Reality testifies that it is the Atheist that doesn't really exist.
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*headdesk*
The ATHEIST doesn't believe that REALITY is GOD. The ATHEIST doesn't believe in ANY deity, including the pantheist one. Therefore the ATHEIST does NOT know that "at least one God is real". Jackass.
How many times do I have to hear this stupid fucking argument? It's worse than "the dinosaurs drowned in the flood".
Crack to logic. Is it so difficult to understand to you that you can see reality but YOU DON´T HAVE NECESSARILY TO BELIEVE THAT SOME ENTITY CALLED GOD HAS CREATED IT?, moreover, that it doesn´t have to be the Biblical God?. And, if you´re talking with the atheists and denying evidence, maybe it´s you who doesn´t exist.
I think he's saying that since we have substituted Reality as a God in place of YHWH/El/Jehovah/da Schwartz, then we aren't really atheists. Therefore, there is no such thing as an atheist.
I think. It's stupid, but that ain't my fault.
That means ReluctantProphet is a Pantheist! Don't try to deny it RP, you've already defined yourself as one, unless you don't believe that reality exists.
Oh! I've got another one! I hereby define "God" as "my cat Pippin." If you believe that my cat exists (come to my house, I'll show him to you) then you believe in Pippin the Cat God. Bow down and woship the psycho kitty!
Technically, I'm not an atheist. I'm an ignostic.
Definitions are man-made, not absolute facts. In most cases, a certain word means a very specific thing every English speaker means the same thing by the word "table." There is no such meaning with "god." If you ask a Christian, a Muslim, a Hindu, a deist, an ancient Greek and a pantheist to define "god," you will not get a consistent answer. In theory, one could make up new religions using new definitions for "god." For the most part, every author can define "god" the way he wants. (In my upcoming book, for example, a "god" is an extremely powerful though not omnipotent being created by other people through a complicated process.)
In theory, if you asked me "Do you believe in a god?" I would have to ask you to define "god." However, since people in Murka generally use the Abrahamic religions' definition for "god," I use it as well, calling myself an atheist.
In short: If you define "god" as "universe," then I believe there is a god. If you make any further claims, such as suggesting that I must put some validity in the Bible because I believe in a god, then I will hit you with an equivication fallacy. If you claim that I must subscribe to some belief in a higher purpose, magical divine order, or some such religious belief because I believe there is a "god," I will remind you that I have only stated that I believe that the universe exists, and that you have merely chosen to use a different sound to describe my belief.
The Atheist doesn't exist -> fundies spend a lot of time talking to atheists +trying to prove atheists wrong -> either y'all are all crazy and talkin to yourselves, or you are wrong.
Either way, you lose.
There is a definition of a God, you idiot, there are many Gods recorded throughout history.
Reality is not a God, reality is a state of existance. In this reality there is no evidence of God(s) however there is real evidence of the Religious, the extremely religious AND the Non-religious.
And again, everyone that goes of on these "all believe" rants knows better, You're just pushing propaganda from your church which can't answer why one should believe, why some don't believe and came up with that "all believe" bullshit. So you'd feel less of an ass when you give money to your church and talk to imaginary beings.
Atheist do not worship nature, the Big Bang, Darwin, Dawkins or whatever shit you claim.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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