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Website title: Steve Irwin (The Crocodile Hunter)
was not a hero or a role model

Was his death an accident or a judgment from God?

This first issue I'd like to address here is why ask this question? There are two reasons. First, it should be acknowledged that in conservative Christian circles all around the world this question has probably come up many times already. Christians who are familiar with the Bible know that God can and will take this kind of action if he has a mind to do so. So it's a fair question from a Biblical perspective. Second, if this truly was a judgment from God, then it may have been done to make a point he wanted the rest of us to understand. That point could be a) there are limits to his patience, b) he's watching and keeping score, c) a reminder that he is not just a God of love and mercy, but also of wrath and judgment. Again, Christians are already considering that possibility, but the secular media seems oblivious to it. If you're not aware that it at least could have been a judgment from God, then you may completely miss the point(s) God was trying to make.

Only God knows with certainty the answer to that question. However, it is naive to dismiss the possibility that God may have directed his wrath against him just because of how "good" one thinks Mr. Irwin may have been. It also demonstrates a poor understanding of what God tells us about himself concerning his wrath and judgment. There are several reasons to at least consider the possibility that his "accidental" death may in fact have been a judgment from God.

1. Mr. Irwin engaged in what God tells us in scriptures that he considers to be an exceptionally wicked practice of causing Christians to stumble in their faith. He did this by his unrepentant promotion of evolutionism.
2. Because he had such a large worldwide audience and was so entertaining and likeable (and therefore very influential), common sense would suggest that he was probably a very large blip on God's radar screen.
3. God tells us in Romans 9 that he sometimes will put up with (what he refers to as "longsuffering") with those who are engaged in unrepentant wickedness so that at some point he can make an example of them by eventually directing his wrath against them.
4. Given the completely unexpected way Mr. Irwin was killed by a normally docile creature that has only killed 2 other people in Australia prior to this, it almost looks like God may have caught him off-guard the very same way he's going to catch millions of other non-Christians off-guard when he returns to the Earth in his glorious second coming. See if the way Mr. Irwin died doesn't bear some small resemblance to this prophecy in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 about the end-times, but on a much smaller scale.

The Young Earth Creation Club, Creationists.org 64 Comments [9/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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This is such a strawman argument, that it needs to go see a wizard about getting a brain.

9/28/2006 1:34:09 AM


Now all this does is prove two things:

1: Your god is an asshole
2: Your god smites people after the deed is done, thus proving he is lazy

9/28/2006 1:38:05 AM


I'm so sick of you lot trampling on the grave of a man who was far, far greater than you could even dream of being. Fuck off already.

9/28/2006 1:38:38 AM


Go fuck yourself up the arse with a bloody chainsaw.

9/28/2006 1:42:25 AM


What kind of weak willed fuck leaves religion because someone presents an opposing idea?

9/28/2006 2:09:01 AM


When you contribute as much as he has, then you can talk. Asshole.

9/28/2006 2:11:43 AM

The Great Chuck Norris

I was going to say he was jealous of all Steve accomplished in his life, but 6 people beat me to it.

Now I am a sad panda. ;(

9/28/2006 2:16:39 AM


That's right your invisible sky god didn't smite terrorists, rapists, murderers, child molesters et al but instead went after Steve. Geez what are you people smoking in church?

9/28/2006 2:20:45 AM


madDog gets in first and best.

9/28/2006 2:43:59 AM


If you're not aware that it at least could have been a judgment from God, then you may completely miss the point(s) God was trying to make.
But what if his point is just that people shouldn't be sneaking up on stingrays?

Isn't there some Bible passage somewhere that says that no one can know what God's reasons are for anything? Seems like this person is just assigning whatever meaning he wants to this event and proclaiming it as God's will. God doesn't like it when you put words in his mouth.

9/28/2006 2:55:25 AM


You are truly goulish. Not to mention fucktarded.

9/28/2006 2:56:56 AM


What an absolute fucking asshole.

9/28/2006 3:09:07 AM


This filled me with nothing but ire toward him and his religion. Fucktard.

9/28/2006 3:15:38 AM


God allows murderers and rapists to run rampant in the streets, but decides to kill a guy that promotes evolution instead. Gotcha.


9/28/2006 3:15:51 AM


Since when did being entertaining and likeable become a sin? I think somebody's just jealous. And your god is an asshole.

9/28/2006 3:16:21 AM


um. I think this is what I don't like about you, adequately summed up.

9/28/2006 3:23:25 AM

My Brain Hurts

Wait a minute... Noah fucks around with animals and he is doing god's work. Steve Irwin fucks around with animals and he's doing satan's work?

You're a dick.

9/28/2006 3:51:47 AM


Whoever you are, fuck you with thirty feet of wrought-iron fence.

9/28/2006 4:06:12 AM

Napoleon the Clown

So... If Steve Irwin was killed for promoting evolution and Stalin lived a fairly long life, does that mean that teaching evolution is worse than order 20 million people killed? God's got fucked up priorities.

9/28/2006 4:12:08 AM


this has got to be the biggest bunch of self-promotion bullshit i've seen in a while
so because god feels that irwin has some sort of influence over people, no not god this fucktard feels this, he deserved to die?
what a heart-less asshole

9/28/2006 4:23:42 AM


You sir are a vile peice of shit.

9/28/2006 4:28:20 AM


Fuck you. Fuck you, fuck your Fundie friends, fuck anyone who can't put aside their religious fervor to mourn, or at least not fucking insult, a good man.

You know what? Shit like this almost makes me want to believe in Christianity, because I'm sure I have a better shot at Heaven than assholes like you.

9/28/2006 5:17:36 AM

The Jamo

He did this by his unrepentant promotion of evolutionism.

What the fuck is \"evolutionism\"? There is no such thing you dipshit! It's the Theory of Evolution that is a part of biological science; it's not a fucking cult, you asshole.

You are also saying that because Steve was likable, he was a big \"blip\" on god's \"radar\" and therefore god killed him? This makes sense to you? You are an unimaginable bastard.

Here in Australia, people loved the man and will remember him for years and years to come. Your shitty god did nothing apart from shooting himself in his own holy foot. Go die in a ditch, you piece of shit.

9/28/2006 5:35:20 AM


What part of being in the YEC Club requires you to be a complete and total douchebag?

9/28/2006 5:38:22 AM


I will hold back my name calling if at all possible.

Let's examine the core of this, god punished someone for believing in something that is proven to exist/happen.
How can god be so stupid to \"cause\" this to happen and yet nobody is getting the message? Was that really a crystal clear way to show his displeasure? No one but fundies are making the connection, how is that a point that everyone will understand?
Sure being attacked by a stingray is a rare event, but not unheard of. Steve Irwin worked with animals for decades, including very dangerous ones. After a million or so poisonous and deadly animals, it is no surprise that it was one of them that killed him.
Your Bushesque fear-mongering does nothing but make people hate you and your god. With all of the ills in the world, that was the best he could do? He would be fired if he worked for me. But anybody who would believe in a 6000 year old earth despite all of the evidence to the contrary obviously isn't too bright to begin with. You and your ilk completely disgust me.

9/28/2006 5:49:44 AM

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