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Can somebody please explain why ANYBODY not associated with al-Qaeda would have issues with the "wire-tapping" telephone surveilance by the Dept. of Homeland Security? Unless you're building a bomb, planning to bring down an airplane, or reporting back to Osama, WHAT THE FUCK are you worried about???????

Telephone surveilance is one of the best defense weapons we have in the war against terror. Somehow I suspect if anybody OTHER than George W. Bush was in the White House, this wouldn't even be an issue. If you're not in cahoots with al-Qaeda, or trying to smuggle illegal aliens or drugs into this nation, then you have NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. Ordinary law-abiding citizens needn't be concerned about telephone taps, only the CRIMINALS and TERRORISTS should be sweating on this one.

mmmmjournal, Livejournal 67 Comments [9/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Sierra

I think we need to set up some sort of fund to connect undereducated fundies with copies of 1984.

9/28/2006 1:52:25 AM

Murdock

Hmm, but I kinda like having at least some privacy. If you like someone going through your entire life with a fine toothed comb be my guest, but I really don't want anyone going through my stuff.

9/28/2006 1:58:46 AM

Amos

When a solder swears to defend the constitution, does that mean s/he is obligated to shoot mmmmjournal?

9/28/2006 2:04:22 AM

[url=http://mad-dog-land.ifastnet.com]madDog[/url]

Just because a method to allegedly catch criminals may be more efficient than others does not make it right. Personal freedoms take priority. It does not make sense that the majority of people should lose their right to privacy simply because a small percentage want to commit crime.

Besides, who is to say that the invasion of privacy would only be used to catch criminals? For all we know, government stooges may be spying on political opponents, and using the captured data to unfairly gain an advantage over an opponent. When it comes to politics, many folks will do anything to achieve a goal, right or wrong.

9/28/2006 2:05:59 AM

Hadanelith

Principle over expediency, asshole.

9/28/2006 2:10:41 AM

notarealdoctor

watergate

9/28/2006 2:11:17 AM

Tixylix

\"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither\" ... Benjamin Franklin

The United States was hijacked by fundies decades ago. Compare \"One nation under god\" and \"in god we trust\" to the Treaty of Tripoli.

9/28/2006 2:17:13 AM

The Great Chuck Norris

mmmmjournal, I got a great suggestion for you, I know you'd like this.

PUT EVERYONE IN CAGES, think about it

1. People are safe from everyone, and themselves.

2. Terrorist can't do anything, they are in cages too.

3. With everyone in cages, you don't have so much to worry about. No work, have others feed and water you, and your peachy.

(THIS IS VERY TONGUE IN CHEEK)

9/28/2006 2:21:25 AM

Nicole

There is absolutely NOTHING in your life that you don't want people knowing about you? Illegal or otherwise?

Fuck yourself with something pointy.

9/28/2006 2:30:30 AM

[url=http://mad-dog-land.ifastnet.com]madDog[/url]

The United States was hijacked by fundies decades ago. Compare \"One nation under god\" and \"in god we trust\" to the Treaty of Tripoli.

Ah yes, the 1950's era of McCarthyism.

9/28/2006 2:38:29 AM

MK

Well, I happen to have a small business that I operate from home. I'd rather the government stay the fuck out of my business transactions and such.

9/28/2006 2:42:23 AM

[url=http://mad-dog-land.ifastnet.com]madDog[/url]

Me too, MK.

9/28/2006 2:48:39 AM

whitewater55

Thankfully, I live outside the U.S.A.

9/28/2006 2:55:02 AM

Axver

So, you're comfortable with the government listening in to all your conversations?

Good for you. Enjoy your police state while I live in a country where people still actually have a measure of privacy.

9/28/2006 3:07:54 AM

ND

Maybe you would not mind being watched while using the toilet. Afterall, you have nothing to hide.

9/28/2006 3:09:03 AM

Mike

Okay. Let's pretend that a stranger can listen to every one of your calls. Every single one of them. He can slo track your e-mail and which websites your go to.

Or how about this. A stranger comes up to you takes your briefcase rummages through it, takes stuff out and leaves you with nothing.

9/28/2006 3:16:28 AM

Libkitten

Maybe because my personal dealings, so long as they are not illegal, are none of the government's damned business?

9/28/2006 3:17:36 AM

TDR

I'd like to put you in a room with your \"founding fathers\" and have them explain it to you. With era appropriate weapons.

9/28/2006 3:21:31 AM

Moe

Sure, because absolutely everyone is scrupulously honest, and would never think of using this kind of thing for personal or political gain, or to fuck with people they didn't like. Because when sheltered, middle-class Americans are pissing their pants in fear of foreign \"evildoers\", we have to give up all of our rights so that we can have the illusion of security, right? As an ordinary, law-abiding citizen of the United States, I have a right to privacy, and I refuse to give that up.

9/28/2006 3:24:35 AM

Jacob

**Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither**

9/28/2006 3:27:40 AM

Bob_Zimmerman

If there were anyone other than Bush in the White House, you're right. It wouldn't be an issue. He's the only president who has ever authorized this sort of blatantly unconstitutional violation of the privacy of an untold number of U.S. citizens.

I know people like this in person. I have to work with people like this. Gah!

9/28/2006 4:10:04 AM

Napoleon the Clown

It isn't a matter of \"worry about.\" It's like the damn peeping tom. That's illegal, but really, what do you have to worry about?

9/28/2006 4:13:32 AM

Archangel_Lucifer

Nineteen eighty four.

'Nuff said.

9/28/2006 4:21:14 AM

Hadanelith

Guys, if you're going to quote it, quote it right.

\"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.\" - Benjamin Franklin

9/28/2006 5:00:55 AM

Ed

There's nothing I can say to this besides \"you're an idiot.\"

9/28/2006 5:14:35 AM
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