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[While trying to explain why light has velocity]
Believe whatever you want to believe. Mathematics does not lie. My mathematics is correct, there is an error in Einstein's.

rbwinn3@juno.com, alt.abortion 38 Comments [9/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Matilde

Your mathematics is at a second degree level, I feel.

9/28/2006 3:54:19 PM

MK

Your mathematics probably looks like this:

God+did=it

9/28/2006 4:03:43 PM

Puistokemisti

Well, can't open the link.
Any change of linking to it through Google Groups?

9/28/2006 4:21:29 PM

Sandman

WOW!!!! Now that's what I call arrogance!

9/28/2006 4:30:21 PM

Murdock

If you want to take up an argument with someone who is arguably the smartest man that ever lived be my guest. I don't think however you’re going to win…and no, you yelling at his grave is not winning.

9/28/2006 4:30:34 PM

Mister Spak

\"My mathematics is correct, there is an error in Einstein's.\"

Well, that explains everything.


Puistokemisti:

Its a newsgroup, not a website. You need a newsreader, unless google groups carries it.

9/28/2006 4:31:59 PM

Ed

ARGH! Dammit, another migraine...

9/28/2006 4:43:39 PM

Mike

\"My mathematics is correct, there is an error in Einstein's.\"

Then submit it to a scientific journal. Let's see how far it gets.

9/28/2006 4:45:25 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

(Arrogance + Ignorance) * Sufficiently Big Number of Fundies = End of the World

9/28/2006 4:53:23 PM

Wolf O'Donnell (SWHQ)

Right... reality proves otherwise.

9/28/2006 5:13:49 PM

Buffalo

\"Believe whatever you want to believe. Mathematics does not lie. My mathematics is correct, there is an error in Einstein's.\"
It's not hard for me to \"believe\" that Einstein was smarter than you, genius.

9/28/2006 5:14:49 PM

Rysith

You are full of brain damage. Not only is your math wrong, Einstein wasn't even responsible for determining that light had velocity. The first measurement of the speed of light was by Ole Rømer in 1676.

9/28/2006 5:54:24 PM

Sierra

Fixed the link.

9/28/2006 5:59:43 PM

David D.G.

Hubris ahoy!

When Einstein's papers were submitted, he was just a patent clerk, with no scientific standing whatsoever; his ideas had to be accepted entirely on their own merit. They were reviewed and were found acceptable, so they were printed, though they were still thought to be highly theoretical. They were not truly accepted as factual until their predictions had been tested and supported by evidence numerous times.

If you've got something to prove here, the only way you'll prove it is by sending it to the journals, getting it accepted and published, and then getting your ideas tested and supported by evidence. Ranting online means nothing. Put up or shut up.


~David D.G.

9/28/2006 6:02:46 PM

Julian

Well Mr Winn - does your mathematics tell you that you can fly? I bet you could, you just have to get up high enough first before you jump.

9/28/2006 6:32:38 PM

John

I'd call this a troll, except that there are actually people whose hobby is trying to disprove Einstein, and occasionally think they've succeeded. I wouldn't think they were posting on alt.abortion, though.

9/28/2006 6:44:25 PM

Hadanelith

Arrogant, ignorant asshole.

9/28/2006 6:51:23 PM

anevilmeme

.....and yet another moron claiming to be brighter than Einstein.......

9/28/2006 8:01:51 PM

Moe

Mathematics might not lie, but incompetent mathematicians are capable of making up all kinds of crazy things. Slapping down a bunch of numbers, and declaring yourself a genius isn't proof in any field.

9/28/2006 8:46:02 PM

Sierra

John, I read through the thread, and when he first introduced the idea someone said that he had seen him try this already a million times on all the alt.physics boards.

9/28/2006 8:50:33 PM



\"My mathematics is correct, there is an error in Einstein's.\"

Does your mathmatics involve dividing by zero or pi equalling three?


9/28/2006 10:24:15 PM

Amos

Hold it! The whole world has gone topsy-turvy! A channel on abortion has turned into a discussion about physics?

This is like when Hawking showed that black holes radiate.

9/28/2006 11:48:11 PM

Old Viking

I believe you, but why do you drool all the time?

9/29/2006 12:33:21 AM

never been there

So we consider the problem as Einstein set it up, a description of
transmission of light relative to two frames of reference. K is a set
of Cartesian coordinates at rest, K' is a set of Cartesian coordinates
in motion relative to K with velocity v in the direction of the x axis.

if w= velocity of light
x=wt
x'=wt'
gamma=1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)


w= x/t=x'/t' =(x-vt)gamma/(t-vx/w^2)gamma = (x-vt)/(t-vx/w^2)


If x is negative w= -c or -186,000 miles per second, not c as
Einstein claimed.


Which argument comes down to Einstein said \"c = constant in all non-accelerated frames of reference\" and rbwinn3 said \"no it isn't.\"

9/29/2006 12:53:00 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Prove that you're smarter than the man that figured out relativity.

9/29/2006 2:09:50 AM
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