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(Anoter response to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peHG7KiLtBM]

I agree with you 100%!! All of my family are pro while im anti. I agreee, if the girl doesnt have sex she wouldnt be in this problem!! Im soo glad that your on my side!!! Im only 14, and I understand how this world..is addicted to sex. Its stupid how its for pleasure..I mean if we didnt have sex too much, we wouldnt be talking about this!

timetobeyouronlyone, YouTube 31 Comments [9/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Brain_In_A_Jar

Youre sort of right - in fact, if we didn't have an inbuilt mechanism for enjoying sex enormously, we wouldn't be here AT ALL.

9/28/2006 6:21:58 PM

Prince Macho Belly

...'cause as we all know, 14-year-olds are the ultimate source of knowledge about sex...

9/28/2006 6:26:09 PM

TDR

sweetheart, as soon as those puberty hormones kick in, trust me, you will feel differently.

9/28/2006 6:36:58 PM

Hadanelith

You'll figure out how stupid that sounds in about two years.

9/28/2006 6:42:21 PM

NKF

Heh... it's funny because the last sentence is true.

9/28/2006 6:56:57 PM

David D.G.

This doesn't seem terribly fundie at all. The kid's right; both popular culture and individuals are WAY too obsessed with sex and immediate sexual gratification.

And for the record, it's extremely condescending to tell someone that the hormones will kick in soon, making him a happy pod person like the rest of us. His opinion on this is entirely valid, despite his age.


~David D.G.

9/28/2006 7:02:19 PM

Sandman

We're not having sex enough if you ask me, because you still have the energy to make posts with multiple exclamation points.

9/28/2006 7:07:55 PM

mkb

Against all reason, I hope this kid gets laid.

9/28/2006 7:46:16 PM

My Brain Hurts

I'm actually going to have to disagree with David D.G. (I know, it hurts me too!)

Actually, our culture is too obsessed with violence, not sex. If our society loosened up about sex, spread knowledge about safe sex and accepted that sex IS pleasurable and IS natural... There would a whole lot less violence, less unwanted pregnancy and less sexually transmitted disease!

Onward and upward brave safe-sex soldiers :)

9/28/2006 8:08:32 PM

Scott

I'm 15, you're a fuckwit.

Although sex is awesome...

9/28/2006 8:08:35 PM

Archangel_Lucifer

Aw cmon he's only 14. The only part I wonder about is \"Its stupid how its for pleasure\"
What is he trying to say here?

And scott. 15? Isnt that still too young? Whats becoming of young people these days! =D =P

9/28/2006 8:16:59 PM

Matilde

It´s the girl´s........and the boy is invisible?, and what about the girls who have been raped?, is it because they wanted pleasure?, It sticks out a mile you´re only 14(and not Einstein)

9/28/2006 8:55:52 PM

Matilde

Besides, OF COURSE WE DO IT FOR PLEASURE. I mean, that´s what happens when two people like each other. And it´s not, if we didn´t have sex too much...........the question is IF WE DIDN´T HAVE SEX IN AN IRRESPONSIBLE WAY.

9/28/2006 8:57:38 PM

David D.G.

My Brain Hurts: Oh, I quite agree that society is far too obsessed with violence, too (and a host of other unhealthy things, frankly), but I think that the obsession with sex is a problem as well. Don't get me wrong: SEX isn't an unhealthy thing, at least intrinsically (though I think it should be considered off limits by anyone under 18), but OBSESSION WITH SEX is unhealthy, whether for a person or for a society -- and our culture is saturated with it.


~David D.G.

9/28/2006 8:58:35 PM

NotMe

though I think it should be considered off limits by anyone under 18


WTF? Give me one good reason that can't be refuted by condoms and their ilk.

9/28/2006 9:28:30 PM

David D.G.

NotMe: Okay, I have a few reasons I consider pretty good, such as emotional maturity (i.e., the lack thereof) and so on, but the main reason I consider is that ANY sex carries some risk of pregnancy (condoms are not perfect, nor is the Pill), and I think that nobody should risk creating a child until he/she is in a position to assume that adult responsibility AS an adult, with at least some potential to make a living and provide for that child.


~David D.G.

9/28/2006 9:45:30 PM

Kelian

David D.G. I agree with you with the exception of apparently blaming the girl. Other than that it is a little naive, but at least a 14-year-old is thinking about things and trying to formulate an opinion.

NotMe: It isn't so much an age, but a maturity level. If sex were purely physical, then condoms and education would be enough. However, there is an emotional maturity that is needed to combat the \"baggage\" that goes along with being sexually active. In my opinion, this is much harder for the female because of societal pressures to remain \"pure.\"

9/28/2006 9:50:58 PM

David D.G.

Kelian: Okay, sorry about that; my bad on that aspect about blaming the girl. I was concentrating so much on the rest of the post, and on people's initial responses to it, that I momentarily missed that bit of misogyny. I definitely think that any blame in that incident should be shouldered by both of the participants, and I think that anyone who says that the girl should have to deal with the consequences but the guy should be able to just skate away from them is totally wrongheaded. Sorry I didn't figure that into my original comment.


~David D.G.

9/28/2006 10:18:52 PM

My Brain Hurts

Well said David D.G., obsession of any kind is unhealthy (sexual or otherwise).

One should definitely wait to have sex until they are mature enough (not sure if I agree that that happens at 18).

Of course there are risks associated with sex. However, if those risks were talked about openly and honestly, then young people could make informed decisions about their sexual activity.

9/28/2006 10:22:53 PM

Nezu Chiza

It's obviously a troll, nobody pro-life would call it \"anti-choice\", even at 14.

9/28/2006 11:40:41 PM

Angel Kaida

Nezu, I think she means anti-abortion, not anti-choice.

9/29/2006 1:42:44 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Just wait till puberty and you'll understand.

9/29/2006 2:16:54 AM

Papabear

David D.G. -- Sure, his opinion has some merit and he is certainly entitled to his opinion, but I think he lacks a personal knowledge of how strong the libido can be. To expect absolute chastity is naive and unreasonable.

I agree, it's not very Fundie.[/b]

9/29/2006 2:35:55 AM

Julian

It does seem to be skating round the whole - \"pregnancy is a punishment for sin\" fundy fallacy though. It doesn't quite fall in, but seriously, 'too much sex?' 'Sex is not for pleasure but procreation?'

It's a little whack, excuse the vernacular!

9/29/2006 4:40:12 AM

Julian

Originally posted by D.D.G.

And for the record, it's extremely condescending to tell someone that the hormones will kick in soon, making him a happy pod person like the rest of us. His opinion on this is entirely valid, despite his age.
Presumptive yes, condescending no.

9/29/2006 4:46:56 AM
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