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I agree with you 100%!! All of my family are pro while im anti. I agreee, if the girl doesnt have sex she wouldnt be in this problem!! Im soo glad that your on my side!!! Im only 14, and I understand how this world..is addicted to sex. Its stupid how its for pleasure..I mean if we didnt have sex too much, we wouldnt be talking about this!
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This doesn't seem terribly fundie at all. The kid's right; both popular culture and individuals are WAY too obsessed with sex and immediate sexual gratification.
And for the record, it's extremely condescending to tell someone that the hormones will kick in soon, making him a happy pod person like the rest of us. His opinion on this is entirely valid, despite his age.
~David D.G.
I'm actually going to have to disagree with David D.G. (I know, it hurts me too!)
Actually, our culture is too obsessed with violence, not sex. If our society loosened up about sex, spread knowledge about safe sex and accepted that sex IS pleasurable and IS natural... There would a whole lot less violence, less unwanted pregnancy and less sexually transmitted disease!
Onward and upward brave safe-sex soldiers :)
It´s the girl´s........and the boy is invisible?, and what about the girls who have been raped?, is it because they wanted pleasure?, It sticks out a mile you´re only 14(and not Einstein)
Besides, OF COURSE WE DO IT FOR PLEASURE. I mean, that´s what happens when two people like each other. And it´s not, if we didn´t have sex too much...........the question is IF WE DIDN´T HAVE SEX IN AN IRRESPONSIBLE WAY.
My Brain Hurts: Oh, I quite agree that society is far too obsessed with violence, too (and a host of other unhealthy things, frankly), but I think that the obsession with sex is a problem as well. Don't get me wrong: SEX isn't an unhealthy thing, at least intrinsically (though I think it should be considered off limits by anyone under 18), but OBSESSION WITH SEX is unhealthy, whether for a person or for a society -- and our culture is saturated with it.
~David D.G.
though I think it should be considered off limits by anyone under 18
WTF? Give me one good reason that can't be refuted by condoms and their ilk.
NotMe: Okay, I have a few reasons I consider pretty good, such as emotional maturity (i.e., the lack thereof) and so on, but the main reason I consider is that ANY sex carries some risk of pregnancy (condoms are not perfect, nor is the Pill), and I think that nobody should risk creating a child until he/she is in a position to assume that adult responsibility AS an adult, with at least some potential to make a living and provide for that child.
~David D.G.
David D.G. I agree with you with the exception of apparently blaming the girl. Other than that it is a little naive, but at least a 14-year-old is thinking about things and trying to formulate an opinion.
NotMe: It isn't so much an age, but a maturity level. If sex were purely physical, then condoms and education would be enough. However, there is an emotional maturity that is needed to combat the "baggage" that goes along with being sexually active. In my opinion, this is much harder for the female because of societal pressures to remain "pure."
Kelian: Okay, sorry about that; my bad on that aspect about blaming the girl. I was concentrating so much on the rest of the post, and on people's initial responses to it, that I momentarily missed that bit of misogyny. I definitely think that any blame in that incident should be shouldered by both of the participants, and I think that anyone who says that the girl should have to deal with the consequences but the guy should be able to just skate away from them is totally wrongheaded. Sorry I didn't figure that into my original comment.
~David D.G.
Well said David D.G., obsession of any kind is unhealthy (sexual or otherwise).
One should definitely wait to have sex until they are mature enough (not sure if I agree that that happens at 18).
Of course there are risks associated with sex. However, if those risks were talked about openly and honestly, then young people could make informed decisions about their sexual activity.
David D.G. -- Sure, his opinion has some merit and he is certainly entitled to his opinion, but I think he lacks a personal knowledge of how strong the libido can be. To expect absolute chastity is naive and unreasonable.
I agree, it's not very Fundie.
It does seem to be skating round the whole - "pregnancy is a punishment for sin" fundy fallacy though. It doesn't quite fall in, but seriously, 'too much sex?' 'Sex is not for pleasure but procreation?'
It's a little whack, excuse the vernacular!
@D.D.G.
And for the record, it's extremely condescending to tell someone that the hormones will kick in soon, making him a happy pod person like the rest of us. His opinion on this is entirely valid, despite his age. Presumptive yes, condescending no.
I have to agree that this poster will change their mind in a few years. As we get older we tend to forget the 'awkward' years and the incredible changes that take place. I always liked girls, I was kissing them well before ever starting kindergarten, but when puberty hit I was a total wanking machine. If given the oppurtunity early enough I KNOW I would've made some bad mistakes, std or pregnancy. Information, true and honest would've gone a long way.
I don't think we're 'Pod People' it's just that the body is a very predictable thing. I also had opinions at 14 that are now quite laughable or at the very least niave.
But this 'just don't do it then' attitude is coming from inexperience and/or belief that god hates you having sexual attraction.
I agree with you 100%!! All of my family are pro while im anti . I agreee, if the girl doesnt have sex she wouldnt be in this problem!! Im soo glad that your on my side!!! Im only 14 , and I understand how this world..is addicted to sex
Let's hope that it's just a symptom of adolescent rebellion and that timetobeyouronlyone will smarten up when he/she comes out of it....
Saying someone is addicted to sex is a little like saying they're addicted to eating. It's a natural body function, and it's said to be the number one predictor of marital success. There's a big difference between not liking sex and wanting sex but abstaining from it. At 14, it's too soon to tell; but in a few years, if they don't want sex, as opposed to wanting it but abstaining, then they'll have problems, especially if they marry.
The use and promotion of sex by commercial interests, such as magazines, TV, ads, music etc. is a separate issue.
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