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Simple Disproof of Evolution

Evolution is able to be disproven in so many ways....here's a simple, lethal disproof:

Ever since Darwin came along, evolutionists have claimed that the human race is evolving. We supposedly evolved from simplistic monkeys to what we are today. But I suggest just the opposite is actually happening.

Just like individuals age over time, so does our species. We are not evolving, but devolving. Our world is rolling downhill like a giant bolder rolling down a mountainside.

Humans have an average life expectancy of 70-75 years…with a maximum of around 120. But what happens if a man marries his first cousin? It has been shown that life expectancy of such offspring diminishes by 10 years. This is because of the large number of genetic mistakes that happen within the genome – which essentially ages the individual.

To me, inbreeding is seems to foreshadow where we are headed in society. We are going downhill genetically. This is true for individuals and this is true for the population. And the reason for this is because humans are consistently deteriorating and degenerating from the high rate of mutations.

If you think about it, every phsyical cause or mechanism of evoution is either conservative or degnerating. First you have natural selection – which is essentially a weeding out process. Then you have mutations, which are all either neutral or deleterious. Thus, to go from the simple to the complex is not only unlikely – it’s impossible. Indeed, all we see in this world is extinction. There are no new forms of life emerging. We are all headed downhill. This contradicts the basic dogma of evolutionists. Life is not gaining complexity or creating new information….it’s in a state of rapid decay and decline.

And it’s happening quickly! Ever notice how many people are on Depression drugs nowdays? You think this is an accident? We know that the environement (ie..what one eats, the air one breathes) can turn genes on or off….and we know our diets are getting worse and our air and water is getting more polluted. We also know through epigenetics that diseases run in families and are inherited. Thus, there is no other way to go than down. This is why many kids nowdays are born with Adhd or childhood depression. In my opinion it's the result of our previous generations' declining quality of diet. It's a result of Dr. Pepper, Cheetos, microwave popcorn, macaroni and cheese, hot dogs, pretzels, gum drops, high fructose corn syrup, flavors, colorings, transfats etc etc etc....... And it’s getting worse fast…genetic damage is accumulating in society. The medical establishment is not doing us any favors, either, by merely treating the symptoms.

Evolutionists like to think that Selection can reverse the effects of biological decay. They’ve argued this for decades. But since selection works on the level of the whole organism, it cannot stop the loss of information due to mutation. It’s like trying to fix a broken-down tv set with a hammer. How can you attempt to explain the appearance of something by the dissapearance of others? There are millions of cars on the road – and many of them will die and/or become unusable. Does this explain the origin of cars or make cars new or better?

Besides that, selection on the individual level is completely random and thus impotent. Every human I know is able to breed. And thus, breeding becomes more of a random lottery than something that's based on genetic superiority or fitness. This flies in the face of evolutionists' thinking. (Does anyone know of someone who is unable to breed?)

Some evolutionists try to claim that life can indeed climb upward by saying that the organism can draw energy from its environment – which would enable it to defy the downhill slide of degneration. But the problem is that Neo-darwinists claim that DNA is in complete isolation and goes on its merry way, regardless of any pressures and effects of the environment. Thus, they cannot claim this.

Anyone who looks at this situation logically should realize that at sometime in the past there must have been a time when there was less genetic damage in the genome. – and thus, longer lives. Can anyone think of time that this may have happened? I can! The Bible reports there was a time in the history of humans that lifespans were incredibly long. According to Genesis people lived to over 900 years old.

I believe God created Adam perfectly – yet after sin entered the world – and after his offspring began inbreeding with close relatives, the long march of unending genetic degeneration via mutations started occuring. (check this decay curve out!)

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/longpatr.html

Afterwards, due to a diet of breads, deserts, cooked foods, sweets and toxicity, humans have been degenerating ever since. There is no way to stop this. Our species is dying. Information is weaking….genomes are decaying. If it were not for the internal mechanisms we have in our bodies for controlling the frequency of mutations, extinction of the human race would come quickly.

But this fact of degeneration is quite lethal to evolutionists. Not only does it make their wild ideas for the origin/evolution of life improbable – it makes them IMPOSSIBLE.

Common sense says that if we are all on a downhill slide that mutation/selection – being the conservative/degenerative devicees that they are -- could have never have explained the origin of anything. Our genomes could not have arisen spontaneously. Instead, our genomes were designed by a designer.

Evolutionists claim we came from the inferior to become more complex….but it’s just the opposite – we started out more complex and are becoming inferior.

If you think I’m nuts, then check this site out….(this is fascinating! -- and DEADLY to the Theory of Evolution.)

http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/Cool/evolution.htm

It destroys the theory of evolution. Plain and simple

Supersport, Christian Forums 25 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Prince Macho Belly

We are Devo.
D-e-v-o.
Are we not men?

9/30/2006 10:50:49 AM

Bone_Vulture

Over a dozen paragraphs of pure RAMBLING.

I guess sport's meth habit is starting to make its marks.

9/30/2006 11:03:14 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

\"Simple\" is not the word I would have chosen to describe that rambling mess.

9/30/2006 11:11:13 AM

Ice

I scanned through this and those links he gave and it amazes me that they're trying to give evidence against evolution by presenting degeneration, which is a form of evolution itself (or an antievolution as I've heard some people call it).

You know, evolution can't be true. We have mutations, differentiations, etc etc etc, and about everything that evolution states we have. It happens to be that the laziness of today's modern human is making a downhill type of evolving, but that's all evidence AGAINST evolution.

For Christ's sake, give these people logic in high school! They need it!

9/30/2006 11:27:31 AM

Matilde

Are you the proof of the DEVOLUTION?, because you reason like a donkey.

9/30/2006 11:38:59 AM

Zadic

1 - Evolution involves change. It does not have to be change in a better direction, it just has to be change.

2 - You seem to have no grasp over the idea that Humans have taken themselves out of the natural world and placed themselves in a bubble. Without natural selection there are no predators to weed out the weak. Genetic flaws build up and yet we still want a family so we have children anyway (Christianity promotes this). They want the same and so the process repeats itself. In time medical science may have a solution for this.

3- You talk about popultion and food that is bad for us...What the hell does that have to do with evolution or even your point that we are de-evolving?

9/30/2006 11:48:01 AM

Crosis

Then you have mutations, which are all either neutral or deleterious.


This is the key piece of your argument. If it's false, the whole thing falls apart.

Guess what? It's demonstrably false.

9/30/2006 1:17:52 PM

JustinGG

Evolution is proved wrong because of inbreeding? To give Supersport credit, I think his own existence proves devolution.

9/30/2006 2:11:17 PM

Axver

This guy is clear proof of devolution, as his brain has clearly devolved into dust.

9/30/2006 2:16:59 PM

Adrian

I don't even want to think about the number of my neurons that died from quickly scanning that post.

In other words:

THE STUPID!!!! IT BURNSES!!!!!</Caps of Truth>

9/30/2006 6:41:46 PM

Moe

No matter how long winded you get, bullshit is still bullshit.

According to Genesis people lived to over 900 years old.

According to actual history, people didn't live as long when they didn't have access to modern medicine, or modern concepts of sanitation. Ancient civilizations weren't entirely ignorant of course, and some of them did quite well. But I believe that life expectancy was still lower then.

9/30/2006 6:56:57 PM

Old Viking

Old Viking's Rule: The less a fundie knows about a subject, the more he has to say about it.

9/30/2006 7:29:27 PM

John

Evolution doesn't say anything is necessarily getting more complex. It just says life adapts to conditions as they change. What's more complex - a human with 47 chromosomes or a fern with thousands? If things are deteriorating, how come bacteria can evolve immunity to antibiotics as fast as we can invent them?

10/1/2006 12:42:49 AM

Lord steel

some of the worse logic I have ever seen.

10/1/2006 5:47:50 AM

Julian

Simple Disproof of Evolution

Shouldn't that read, \"Disproof\" of Evolution for Simpletons.

10/1/2006 11:56:42 AM

Redhunter

I was going to go into some of your fucktarded ideas, but once I came to the line asking if anyone knows anyone who cannot breed I almost broke my computer.


My wife and I cannot breed you fuckhead, and by your own admission it is due to god. SO FUCK YOU AND YOUR ASSHOLE GOD! You are one of the most smug, full of complete shit assholes I have ever had the displeasure to read from. Your views are retarded and wrong, your explantions are turds culled from teh depths of your ass.

\"But what happens if a man marries his first cousin?\"

You are that result.

Just because mankind is discovering the causes to man's ills does not mean that those cases are increasing, it means that they were never diagnosed before this!

You are nuts and speaking of which I'd like to kick you in yours. Fucking piece of ratshit.

10/2/2006 7:55:09 AM

Seomah

So god made us and we are devolving.

Where's the fucking technical service number?

10/2/2006 9:33:39 AM

Coffee

I can think of two obvious pieces of evidence that humans are not devolving: people in the developed world are getting taller and living longer.

Compare the height of a modern American soldier with a WWI soldier, or a Civil War soldier. Consider that retirement age may soon have to be adjusted upward because people are staying active longer and living longer.

Granted, that's due to better nutrition and disease control, but it still refutes superspud's \"thesis\" that humanity is going downhill faster than a pig on rollerskates.

10/2/2006 12:22:43 PM

Adrian

Evolution is genetic change over time, it's not a long term goal set forth by nature that every speices must strive to achieve for.

12/23/2006 5:01:08 AM

Devil's Advocate

I enjoy this site and all, but I have to say, I'm sometimes think a FSTDTer's STDTs could be equally interesting.

Evolution involves change. It does not have to be change in a better direction, it just has to be change.

You (and other's who've employed similar techniques) have been avoiding the issue. So that IS \"evolution\" strictly speaking. Stop for a minute, and consider, 'What might actually be the issue if the offender was a sane person?'

Here's the quick answer: The \"problem\" with evolution is it goes against god creating Mankind. For true religious people, that is an issue they will have to struggle with (or plug their ears real hard).

Reading the earlier parts, his concerns are actually sort of reasonable, for his misguided education.

12/24/2006 6:21:10 AM



@ Prince Macho Belly

Beat me to it.

Altogether now...

They tell us that
We lost our tails
Evolving up
From little snails
I say it's all
Just wind in sails
Are we not men?
We are devo!
We're pinheads now
We are not whole
We're pinheads all
Jocko homo
Are we not men?
D-e-v-o
Monkey men all
In business suit
Teachers and critics
All dance the poot
Are we not men?
We are devo!
Are we not men?
D-e-v-o
God made man
But he used the monkey to do it
Apes in the plan
We're all here to prove it
I can walk like an ape
Talk like an ape
I can do what a monkey can do
God made man
But a monkey supplied the glue
We must repeat
O.k. let's go!

12/12/2009 6:29:47 PM

Philbert McAdamia

> The Bible reports there was a time in the history of humans that lifespans were incredibly long. <

Incredible. In fact, unbelievable.

12/12/2009 8:32:10 PM

Canadiest

This from people who believe the entire human race came from one couple, wiped out later and building up from noahs family,
Talk about small gene pools!

Oh, and not everyone or even most live on junk food diets

12/13/2009 10:16:19 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Genetic diversification means a more robust population. Inbreeding means amplification of undesirable characteristics; in Stuporsnort's case, the evidence of retardation gives credence to the corollary of negative evolution.

12/13/2009 10:39:49 AM

Meh

tl;dr

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