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Putting the homosexual issue aside(which everyone knows is an abomination). Think of the chaos gay marriage would cause! Who would be head of household according to IRS? If divorced who would get the children??? Who is head of household for social security benefits?? What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance?? IF you dont have medical insurance, all one would have to do is say they are gay and could get it thru their "partner". If Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie??? See what I mean? What a complete nightmare. What if Bill and John are married, and John marries Susie, who gets the kids in a divorce?? Hey, maybe I could marry an Orangutan or a horse or an alien and get health benefits thru them too.

lesjay, FulfilledProphecy.Com 22 Comments [9/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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anon

Wow - does this nutter really think that head of household is always the man for the IRS? It's whoever makes more money, dolt.As for polygamy or bestiality, those are different issues. Idiot.

9/30/2006 10:23:13 AM

Matilde

So, basically because one of them is not socially considered the fair sex, is it going to colapse?. What about two partners in the same company, which decide to go parting, are they colapsing the system?

9/30/2006 11:35:59 AM

godling

None of the gay/lesbian couples I know would be thrown into complete chaos by such trivialities.

Maybe YOU shouldn't get married if you get confused so easily.

9/30/2006 12:09:34 PM

NotMe

Who would be head of household according to IRS?


That depends on who they can pluck for more.

who insures who for medical insurance?


Uhmmm. Don't you get some insurance package that covers the family? Or at least an insurance for each person? So who cares who insures who. You are both insured and both are being paid for.

IF you dont have medical insurance, all one would have to do is say they are gay and could get it thru their \"partner\".


And you know, show those marriage papers. mariages leave a paper trail that can easily be found out.

f Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie?


Last time I heard you could only marry 1 person at a time.

What if Bill and John are married, and John marries Susie, who gets the kids in a divorce?


Double marriage is not allowed. And if it was, it would be between a contest between the biological parents of the child.

[/quote]Hey, maybe I could marry an Orangutan or a horse[/quote]

At least you'd be at your own level of intelligence.

or an alien


I'd advise against this one. Interplanetary immigration is a bitch.

and get health benefits thru them too.


I'll advise against this to. vets and aliens have little understanding of human diseases.

9/30/2006 12:25:25 PM

Crosis

(which everyone knows is an abomination)


Stop right there. \"Everyone\" knows no such thing.

Who would be head of household according to IRS?


The head of household right now, in heterosexual marriages, can be the woman. It doesn't matter to the IRS.

If divorced who would get the children???


That's not consistent among heterosexual marriages - and for good reason. Sometimes it's better for the kids to live with the mother, sometimes it's better to live with the father.

Who is head of household for social security benefits?


Doesn't really matter.

What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance?


Doesn't matter there either. Hell, with both parents working in so many families now they usually pick whichever company offers better (or cheaper) insurance.

IF you dont have medical insurance, all one would have to do is say they are gay and could get it thru their \"partner\".


If same-sex marriage were legal, you wouldn't have this problem - because there would be legal documentation of the partnership.

If Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie?


If you're going to allow polygamy (and I don't really see a reason for not doing so, to be honest, so long as the informed consent of all parties involved is obtained), there's no reason that it shouldn't be permissible that way.

What if Bill and John are married, and John marries Susie, who gets the kids in a divorce??


If they can't come up with an agreement, the court will decide based on who is better able to raise them and provide for them. Same as happens now.

Hey, maybe I could marry an Orangutan or a horse or an alien and get health benefits thru them too.


Orangutans and horses are not capable of informed consent. Aliens might be (though there's no reason to believe they would be at all like us).

9/30/2006 12:53:33 PM

Nepthys

I don't see why you shouldn't marry a horse since you're obviously a horse's ass.

9/30/2006 1:20:17 PM

Axver

Wow, this person tried to use the slippery slope argument, except the \"slope\" they used is actually a plateau on a different continent.

Next time, dimwit, ask questions that are even remotely intelligent rather than irrelevant or misguided nonsense.

9/30/2006 2:13:03 PM

Shanleigh

And those things matter, why? None of those questions even matter, as none of them are determined by gender.

9/30/2006 3:56:38 PM

Moe

What if Fundies minded their own damn business for once? None of this stuff is written in stone, except in the minds of asshead Fundies. Generally people are smart enough to come to some kind of an arrangement that works for them. Whether this conforms to someone else's idea of the way things ought to be is irrelevant.

9/30/2006 7:08:06 PM

Old Viking

Another fundie weighs in on their favorite subject.

9/30/2006 7:35:33 PM

Libkitten

Who would be head of household according to IRS?

I'd assume it would be the person that makes the majority of the income, as with straight couples, but that's for the IRS to decide.

If divorced who would get the children???

I'm going to go with... the parent that is shown to be most qualified and the best choice for the welfare of the child. Or, you know, joint custody.

Who is head of household for social security benefits??

See response to IRS question. If there's even SS to go around in a few years time.

What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance??

My guess would be whoever decided to put dependents on his/her coverage. Being the male of the house doesn't automatically mean your wife goes on your benefits form, anyway. My step-mother put my dad and the kids on HER insurence as dependents.

If Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie???

Polygamy is still illegal, as far as I know.

9/30/2006 10:22:24 PM

Windfoxie

My mother was head of the household whilst her asshole boyfriend stayed home and drank all day. Your point?

9/30/2006 10:29:40 PM

John

Who would be head of household according to IRS?

If they were married, neither. Married couples don't file with \"head of household\" status. See IRS publication 501. Trust me; they think of every possible loophole.

If divorced who would get the children??

If there was a dispute, the court would decide in a custody hearing, just like with straight couples.

What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance?

This would be a personal decision based on cost, coverage, etc., just like for working straight couples. My company has very good benefits, so many female coworkers cover their families because their husbands don't have as good a plan, are self-employed or out of work.

IF you dont have medical insurance, all one would have to do is say they are gay and could get it thru their \"partner\".

Many big companies already cover same-sex couples. They have rules to avoid abuses like covering your roommate, unemployed friend, etc.

If Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie?

No.

10/1/2006 12:15:00 AM

Julian

What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance??
Which is one reason of many why they should be allowed to marry you fuckwit!

If divorced who would get the children???
Tell me you don't think there's a law that the vagina gets to keep the children and the penis has to pay alimony?

Hey, maybe I could marry an Orangutan or a horse or an alien and get health benefits thru them too
OK I give up, where is your homeworld?

10/1/2006 12:41:10 PM

Redhunter

\"Putting the homosexual issue aside(which everyone knows is an abomination).\"

Fundies THINK it is. Don't tell me what the rest of the world thinks about it, that's just projecting.

\"Think of the chaos gay marriage would cause! Who would be head of household according to IRS?\"

Whichever one they (the married people)decide on, what difference could that make to you?

\"If divorced who would get the children???

Your ? key seems to be stuck. the extra two are unneccessary. Who says the women always get the kids? Usually the most capable is given custody, or like my bro-in-law, they share custody. No one is left out.

\"Who is head of household for social security benefits??\"

You already asked 'who would be head of the household. If I noticed it, surely you could've.

What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance??

You still having trouble with that ? key? Only one do you need sayeth Yoda. Me and my wife have changed insurance depending on which one of us was getting a better deal. When it comes down to it, married people without children get screwed the most.

\"IF you dont have medical insurance, all one would have to do is say they are gay and could get it thru their \"partner\".\"

Yah, it doesn't work like that. Otherwise lots of people could claim insurance by just saying so. I call bullshit.

If Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie???

Of course not. Can my mom or dad marry someone else concurrently with their marriage to each other? Of course not. Stop creating ridiculous examples.

\"See what I mean?\"

Not a fucking whit. You seem to hate the idea because of your beleifs and you are trying to push those beliefs on others.

\"What a complete nightmare.\"

Only trying to cull a coherant argument from you.

\"What if Bill and John are married, and John marries Susie, who gets the kids in a divorce??\"

Why the fuck are you repeating yourself? You aleady asked that one dipshit.

\"Hey, maybe I could marry an Orangutan or a horse or an alien and get health benefits thru them too.\"

You go right ahead and do that and watch how fast they send you to counceling.

10/2/2006 7:40:33 AM

Coffee

I object to this person marrying an orangutan or a horse on the grounds that it would constitute cruelty to animals.

And let's face it, the only reason lesjay would want to marry an alien is for the anal probes.

10/2/2006 11:57:32 AM

Julian

I like the fact he or she is smart enough to admit if they married an orang, it would have to be the breadwinner!

11/6/2006 3:36:21 AM

clockworkgirl21

Putting the homosexual issue aside(which everyone knows is an abomination). Think of the chaos gay marriage would cause! Who would be head of household according to IRS?

Okay, I'm 19, and don't have much experience with the IRS, but I really don't think they care who the head of any particular household is.

If divorced who would get the children???

They'd get joint custody. Is it really that hard? Personally, I believe that within reason, it should be up to the child...

Who is head of household for social security benefits?? What about partner insurance, who insures who for medical insurance??

Why does any of this have to be gender related?

IF you dont have medical insurance, all one would have to do is say they are gay and could get it thru their "partner". If Bill and John marry, can John also marry Susie???

No, because John's married to Bill...

See what I mean?

No.

Hey, maybe I could marry an Orangutan or a horse or an alien and get health benefits thru them too.

If any of them can say "I do" and consent, I have no problem with that.

5/27/2008 4:24:30 AM



Grasping at straws, the musical.

12/12/2009 6:23:22 PM

Philbert McAdamia

If little Suzie-Q, at 11, (marryin' age) is shacking with Bubba, and Uncle LeeRoy won't marry up with her 'til she's gone and become a old maid at 13, but he gits caught by second cousin twice removed PhilbDonnie Ray out behind the barn with some sheep dressed up all sexy, (mind you, they was lady sheep) will her cross-eyed kids inherit BillyBob's banjo and pickup truck after any deevorce? Who's gonna be aspankin' them childerns after, Deacon?
What if, what if. Oh them librul jedges'll prolly do they ungodly magic and wreck the whole dang moral fambly.

12/12/2009 10:52:54 PM

OhJohnNo

Not only homophobic, but misogynistic.

5/25/2012 7:12:54 AM

Nagol

Oh please, this is just a lame excuse most people use because they don't want gay people to have the same rights as they do. If you're really stupid enough to think that a man always has to be head of household, or that animals can't give consent, then maybe you shouldn't be using a computer.

5/25/2012 7:56:46 AM
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